Cartridge exploded in chamber

Bad Bob said:
So you, quote, "I vibrate all my loads that is the varget way". Here is the question. If you were trying to put 22.1 of 133 into a .223 case why were you vibrating it if you can get 26 or more into it? How long have you been reloading?
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How long have you bad bob
 
Oldly said:
How long have you bad bob
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Why the clap back? It is simple question. Based on this thread, and the excuses. I would say you haven't been reloading long, or if you have. You need to go back to reloading 101. You admitted before having the fan effect your powder loads, you didn't size new brass. Oh yeah my father taught me when I was like 15, and I'm nearly 40 now.
 
Oldly said:
Ya you can put 26 in and it is just around the shoulder.i vibrated after with a toothbrush.i am almost positive it was not the 75 but was the 69.but it could happen.as for touching the lands I believe it is 2.98(my paper is downstairs and my knees had a day in them already lol)and I loaded it to 2.78.am I 100% sure no but it loaded smoothly and no effort needed to close bolt.when it is tight or near tight on the lands I can feel it.
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This is where you said you had put 26 gr in. Did you mean 22?
 
OkayShooter said:
Why the clap back? It is simple question. Based on this thread, and the excuses. I would say you haven't been reloading long, or if you have. You need to go back to reloading 101. You admitted before having the fan effect your powder loads, you didn't size new brass. Oh yeah my father taught me when I was like 15, your right man I gotta be mistake free like you.but I'm always learning there bud.and I'm 60, I said countless times that I was at 30% because of second covid jab,that I should of left it alone there bud.so I will leave it at that.take it for what that's worth bud.now you can freely throw what ever you have bud.yup I messed up,no were did I say I never.
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Oldly said:
Said you can put 26gr in not that I did.
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I was only trying to make sense of it, wasn't attacking you. You said 26gr was around the shoulder so I assumed you put 26gr in to make that statement, otherwise how did you know? Nothing more to be learned at this point and maybe the lesson here is we shouldn't reload when we're not feeling well.
 
jethunter said:
I was only trying to make sense of it, wasn't attacking you. You said 26gr was around the shoulder so I assumed you put 26gr in to make that statement, otherwise how did you know? Nothing more to be learned at this point and maybe the lesson here is we shouldn't reload when we're not feeling well.
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I gotcha,just seems people become attack dogs,ya a poster asked if you could put that much in,and I tried it when I got home and found you could put 26gr in.so I answered that 26 puts you at the shoulders.its all good(ex ept my bolt lol)but yup don't reload under the weather, you need to be sharp,but me I was wanting fresh air lol.
 
Oldly - thanks for posting about this. I do not have enough years left to make all the mistakes possible - although it seems I give it a good try - so posts like yours show a mistake that occurred that apparently could have happened to me, but now will not - don't re-load when not feeling "sharp", no fans or breeze near scales, and so on.
 
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OkayShooter said:
Why the clap back? It is simple question. Based on this thread, and the excuses. I would say you haven't been reloading long, or if you have. You need to go back to reloading 101. You admitted before having the fan effect your powder loads, you didn't size new brass. Oh yeah my father taught me when I was like 15
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your right man I gotta be mistake free like you.but I'm always learning there bud.and I'm 60, I said countless times that I was at 30% because of second covid jab,that I should of left it alone there bud.so I will leave it at that.take it for what that's worth bud.now you can freely throw what ever you have bud.yup I messed up,no were did I say I never.
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I just pay better attention at what I am doing. Because I like my eyes and fingers, also my investments. So now you know impaired reloading is a no no.. Again that part of reloading basics. So yes take this as an eye opener. Because next time you may not be as lucky.
 
Potashminer said:
Oldly - thanks for posting about this. I do not have enough years left to make all the mistakes possible - although it seems I give it a good try - so posts like yours show a mistake that occurred that apparently could have happened to me, but now will not - don't re-load when not feeling "sharp", no fans or breeze near scales, and so on.
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Thanks man,except for the and so on lol.i only made 2 mistakes but hey maybe 3 or 4.2 wks ago driving from the range my hood blow into the windshield and smacked the dog in the head(he had his head were dogs have their head in cars)on a major 2 lane highway.i was lucky that I had a 4 inch spot to see me to safety.the range is sneaking up on me.
 
I dont think anyone here is being even the slightest bit offensive. They are all trying to help you keep 5 fingers on each hand and the both of your eyes working.
So if I were you I would take the advice and start back at Reloading 101.

Simple stuff like:
Don't reload unless you can give it your full attention.
Don't fan your scale.
Always start at the minimum load and slowly work up from there looking for signs of pressure etc
Document everything...Bullet make and weight, powder make and weight...and so on.

Only one can of powder on the bench at a time.
One box of bullets on the bench.

Anyway, you feel free to do as you please, no offense intended by me.

Good luck to you.
 
Bigbubba said:
I dont think anyone here is being even the slightest bit offensive. They are all trying to help you keep 5 fingers on each hand and the both of your eyes working.
So if I were you I would take the advice and start back at Reloading 101.

Simple stuff like:
Don't reload unless you can give it your full attention.
Don't fan your scale.
Always start at the minimum load and slowly work up from there looking for signs of pressure etc
Document everything...Bullet make and weight, powder make and weight...and so on.

Only one can of powder on the bench at a time.
One box of bullets on the bench.

Anyway, you feel free to do as you please, no offense intended by me.

Good luck to you.
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okay man thanks.
 
TRy as hard as I can to let it go but this still bothers me: QL predicted 23% compression (23% overfill) with 26 gr N133 and the 69gr bullet seated but Oldly eyeballed 26gr powder level at or below the shoulder. Now, QL is not perfect and is using average case capacity, etc. But a difference of 23% or more seems excessive. And that makes me wonder if it was actually N133 powder.
 
It is interesting for sure. I agree, i think its a different powder

He says he has 133, 335, Benchmark, IMR4895, Varget (post 46)

For a 69 grain bullet, suggested data:

Data for 133 - 20.2-21.9 or 20.7-22.8 depending on bullet make
Data for H335 - 22-24
Data for Benchmark - 21.5-23.5
Data for IMR 4895 - 23.3 - 24.8
Data for Varget - 24-26

I would doubt, as do many of you, that 25-26 grains of any of these would do what it did.

Wondering if some how powders got mixed up in containers, or he bought powder from someone that was in wrong container etc
 
chuck nelson said:
This “mystery” is baffling. It’s not a mystery. There was too much powder put in the case and it blew a primer.
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...he says, with absolute certainty. Lol

Shouldn't be able to get enough of that powder in that case to get that result but he did with room to spare. So sure, no mystery if you dont think too much about it.
 
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