CAS Coach Gun

Cagunman

Cagunman

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Howdy folks!
I just received my new Stoeger Coach gun supreme this afternoon. I hurried over to the range as soon as I got home from work and shot maybe 16 or 18 rounds of #6 shots I had left at home. It works beautifully, of course it's gonna need a little work, but it shoots straight, both barrel at POA.
It came with IC and Mod chokes, are these the chokes to stay with, or should I be buying differrent ones. These are interchangable. As well what would be the standard distance with the shot gun during a match?:D:D:dancingbanana:
 
Tuning the coach gun

It opens relatively easily, spring should loosen up some I'll start by working it while whatching TV. I will need to reem the chambers though right now the emptys have to be pulled out. The gun came with extractors. I don't think they can eject the emptys, I guess I'll know when the reeming is done.
I'll be taking it to the gunsmith this winter, for now I will keep playing with it.
 
You can pickup a small brake cylinder hone, to pollish chambers yourself,
if you are so inclinde to.
Use WD40 for lube.
If it has that auto safety feature, you may want to de-activate it .
So that when you break the gun open, the safety wont be automaticaly applied.
Take the rear stock off to access the works.
Good gun, I have the same, but older model with fixed chokes.
 
leadslinger said:
You can pickup a small brake cylinder hone, to pollish chambers yourself,
if you are so inclinde to.
Use WD40 for lube.
If it has that auto safety feature, you may want to de-activate it .
So that when you break the gun open, the safety wont be automaticaly applied.
Take the rear stock off to access the works. Good gun, I have the same, but older model with fixed chokes.
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Happy to hear it!
The barrel has the polished nickel finish, will that make it tougher to do myself? I saw the information online as to disabling the auto safety. I'm not sure I want to tackle that myself.
 
Try different brands of ammo as well . Some cowboy guns shuck one brand but stick with another. Usually low brass & no ribs in the plastic work best.

If it does have an ejector you will have to disable it to be legal for cowboy shooting
 
fingers284 said:
Try different brands of ammo as well . Some cowboy guns shuck one brand but stick with another. Usually low brass & no ribs in the plastic work best.

If it does have an ejector you will have to disable it to be legal for cowboy shooting
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A hearty +1 on both counts. I found for mine that Federal trap loads slip out like a fish off a wet board. But Fiocchi trap loads stick. I'll have to check to see if the differences are as noted by fingers.

Yep, no ejectors allowed. Extractors only. The ejection has to come from you jerking the gun up and back so it hucks the cases out over your shoulder. Works like a charm when the shells fit just right.
 
fingers284 said:
Try different brands of ammo as well . Some cowboy guns shuck one brand but stick with another. Usually low brass & no ribs in the plastic work best.

If it does have an ejector you will have to disable it to be legal for cowboy shooting
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After reading your post I checked my gun with ammo I have just bought Winchester (Can Tire $29.95/ 100 rds) the unfired shells slid right out. It probably will be different with fired shell, but I'll know this weekend.
It did allow me to check, mine came with extractors not ejectors. I'm liking the gun more and more.
Thanks for the advise much appreciated.
 
I went out today and tried new ammo. I fired about 10 rounds of Winchester, they were slipping out relatively well until the last 2 they stuck in the gun so I couldn't even open it. I stopped at the gunsmith and we ended up getting it open. He suggested I try a different ammo he said that that the ones I had in there are the cheapest of the cheap. He showed me that the Federal trap loads where better at the primer end they are thinner. So I'm off to buy a box of Federal (he didn't have 71/2) and will give it a try. I guess I should have followed BC Rigers advise!
Otherwise the gun is loosening up and can now be openned one handed I think it will turn out to be a great coach gun. I will have to get the triggers reversed the right one should be at the rear. I saw and article in the Nov Cowboy Chronicle talking exactly about that. The Gunsmith also suggested I talk to another gentleman who does work on fun guns he tells that this guy has done a lot of competing in his day and would be better suited for what I will need. I'll be in touch with him and see what he says.:D
 
howdy, I was at a cowboy shoot a couple of weeks ago and tried out a worked over stoeger double. Sweet. There's a gunsmith here in Ontario that will disable the auto safety(it's still there, just selective), chamfer the chamber mouths, ream & polish the chamber so the shells extract easily, and tweak the springs so that the gun opens easily. He can also change the triggers to left or right handed use. I believe he mentioned about $275 for all this. What a difference though. I used a double for years, and switched to a '97 Norchester cause it felt faster, but holy cow! if I had a double that had the work done on it like I tried out, I'd be even quicker than I am with the '97. If you're interested let me know. I've got his business card around here somewhere. I know it's a bit pricey, but it'd be the fastest possible shotgun you could use for CAS. Anyhow, let me know. Happy trails
 
For reaming the chambers, I used the 12 ga wire brush, wrapped steel wool around it, hooked to to my cordless drill, used WD-40 as a lube and went at her. Even my reloads fall right out. Most cowboy shootists that are using doubles or the Winchester 87 use Winchester AA as they are brass and will contract faster after firing than aluminum, making the empties just fall out.
 
Reemed Stoeger IGA

Have had my SXS reemed, chamfered, selective safety, triggers reversed, weaker release spring, with the locking lug polished, oversize bead sight. Generally the AA's seem to throw out all the time, but Federal's sometimes have a tendency to stick, especially in the right chamber which seems to be the problem chamber for some reason with many of them. Nobody seems to have any problem with the AA's, except for the fact they're substantially more expensive, but nicer for the reliability of throwing them out. Now I compromise; Federals for my Norinco 97, & AA's for my doubles.
 
As Buffalo Creek said- but try a bit of fine valve grinding compound (available at Canadian Tire) on the steel wool wrapped around the bore brush instead of the WD-40- does a beautiful smooth job. Go slow with the drill though, and clean thoroughly when finished.

I've heard some guys treat the inside of the chambers with Teflon lub, but I've not tried it yet.

Niagara Glen
 
Cagunman said:
I went out today and tried new ammo. I fired about 10 rounds of Winchester, they were slipping out relatively well until the last 2 they stuck in the gun so I couldn't even open it. I stopped at the gunsmith and we ended up getting it open. He suggested I try a different ammo he said that that the ones I had in there are the cheapest of the cheap. He showed me that the Federal trap loads where better at the primer end they are thinner. So I'm off to buy a box of Federal (he didn't have 71/2) and will give it a try. I guess I should have followed BC Rigers advise!
Otherwise the gun is loosening up and can now be openned one handed I think it will turn out to be a great coach gun. I will have to get the triggers reversed the right one should be at the rear. I saw and article in the Nov Cowboy Chronicle talking exactly about that. The Gunsmith also suggested I talk to another gentleman who does work on fun guns he tells that this guy has done a lot of competing in his day and would be better suited for what I will need. I'll be in touch with him and see what he says.:D
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Since then I've shot well over 100 rounds. The Winchester shells make the gun harder to open but they slide right out as is "no reaming". With the Federals the gun opens easier but the shells won't slide out. I think the problem comes from the brass at the base of the shells the Win shells are short and I think they angle a bit when the extractor pulls them, the Feds have a longer brass at the base which makes them more rigid when the extractor pulls them out. The problem is they don't slide out.
I probably will get it worked on, but not yet. I'm still not quite ready for CAS, I still need the 2 Ruger "New Vaqueros". I'll be ready by april.
 
Seabass said:
I found the very same to be true with my CG.
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I ended up using some of that emery cloth that comes in strips for plummers, and I rolled up a couple pieces the size of the chamber. I inserted into the 1st inche 1/2 inside the chamber and I reamed the chamber for approx 15 or 20 minutes. Now I use the Federal shell and they slide right out with the slightest jerk.
I love that Coach Gun!
 
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