Case stretching - how much

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Have a 7mmRM. It's a Savage 111 that doesn't group well at with various ammo - 3 inches at 100yds. Trying to get to the bottom of it. Am noticing that the cases are visibly longer after one firing. Also noticed a couple that had cracks around the casing a bit down from the belt, but I think those were reloads.
How much should these grow after 1 firing? If too much, what could be the issue? Am wondering about excessive headspace.
 
Any cracking around the web of the brass is cause for concern and those cases should be culled. Full length resizing will cause your brass to lengthen more than does neck sizing, how ever for use in a hunting rifle I prefer to full length resize to ensure easy chambering. When a belted case is full length resized it will head space on the belt, however neck sizing or partial FL resizing will allow the case to headspace on the shoulder. The reason your case stretches is that each time you fire, the case will stretch until the shoulder comes in contact with the chamber wall, the more the shoulder is set back, the more the case will stretch. This is the reason that neck sizing will produce longer case life than FL resizing.

If you shoot a steady diet of full powered loads, the primer pockets will probably open up before case failure from stretching becomes an issue. However I'd be vigilant for the type of cracking you are observing around the belt, particularly if there are carbon traces present along those cracks. This is a warning of incipient case failure, meaning that within the next reload or two you could have a case head separation. Should that happen you might find it difficult to remove the body of the brass case without any head for a stuck case remover to grab. If you are unable to remove the case with a jag and doubled up patches, you can carefully cut threads on the inside of the case body with a tap and thread in a bolt with a stack of washers as spacers to pull it out; but its better to avoid all that by not using brass that's about to fail.

You'll never get the rifle to shoot well by shooting a variety of ammo in it. To solve your accuracy issues, work up to the maximum load, then shoot groups with a incrementally smaller powder charges until you hit the sweet spot. You will have to repeat this exercise any time you make a change in the components you are loading. If tweaking the load doesn't tighten up the group, I'd look at the rifle, particularly the bedding. This is all on the assumption that you have taken care to ensure the action bolts and the scope mounting hardware is all tight.
 
Have the chamber checked by a gunsmith or buy go and no-go gauges. If your chamber-bolt combination is fine, you may indeed resize the case too far. It's a wise investment to buy a case gauge that checks for minimum/maximum headspace and overall cartridge length.
 
"...think those were reloads..." Your's? Never shoot other people's reloads.
It's highly unlikely a new commercial hunting rifle will have bad headspace.
"...once fired measure 2.509..." That's 9 thou over the original case length. It's not unusual for brass to stretch on its first firing. It is over the max case length, so you need to trim to 2.490" and chamfer and deburr.
 
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