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I have shot a few cast bullets in my yugo 48 and m 44

The round nose cast for the yugo are Lyman 323470 165 grain round nose and they have been a pain , they just do not feed well in the mauser action

The polish m 44 has not had problems feeding the lyman 311466 155 rn; but i have found it very diffucult sight the rifle; it shoots very low. I am using unique powder about 14 grains.

any suggestions or comments?
 
Check out the Cast Boolit Forum, guys there have loads of experience and there is a great article posted there on loading for military rifles. You willfind our answers there.

Take Care

Bob
 
Some rifles do shoot very low with the light load/fast powder cast bullet recipes. You see all sorts of hard to explain phenomena. Maybe first try going lighter. My father got his 30 06 springfield to shoot at the same sight setting as 180gr factory at 25yds with 5gr of Unique for a grouse load. If you haven't seen some improvement by 8 grains or so, try another powder. I like alliant 2400 for that kind of load, probably 16 to 20gr.
If that doesn't work, maybe try a slower powder, starting about 70% of the listed jacketed bullet load.
Grouch
 
First of all, these rifles are not designed to shoot cast bullets. Secondly, the recipe you mentioned certainly makes your M44 shoot low. Unique is for pistol loads.
 
rollingrock said:
First of all, these rifles are not designed to shoot cast bullets. Secondly, the recipe you mentioned certainly makes your M44 shoot low. Unique is for pistol loads.
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Unique is a very popular powder for shooting cast boolits in some rifle caibers, including some military rifles. OP has to realize he is working with much lower velocities than with jacketed. That said I have shot loads of .303 Brit at over 1700 fps without leading using copper bases on my boolits. Straight cast have run to 1500 fps in some calibers without leading. Proper alloys and lubes help.

Take Care

Bob
 
I use to load my M48A with this boolit to OAL 2.870 and Lee cast to OAL 2.810 and both feed very well.Only thing I had to learn-work action fast and strong( that goes for all milsurps).
With M44 and Finn M91 I found that Lee 155Gr works just as good as heavy cast and it shoots much flatter (not sure if this is right word)-in M91 I use 200 meter set for 100 yrd.OAL with this guy I keep about 2.855.

Try those and see if you like it :)
 
Sam54 I just took a look at your 323470 mold hard to remember what they all look like. You most likely just need a bullet with a longer more tapered nose like the spritzer bullet the original ammo was loaded with on occasion those short RN designs just don't feed well in old military rifles. Have you tried the Lee design it has a little more length and not so rounded nose.

On the M44 did you adjust the rear sight leaf up accordingly to match the slower velocity of your cast loads. My Russian M44 requires about a 300 meter setting to hit same POI with cast loads @1700 fps. vs. the origins Russian ammo @ around 2700 fps. with the sights set on the 100 meter setting. What did your Mosin bore slug out at and what dia. bullet is your mold dropping,undersized bullets can lead to poor results as well. My mosin slugged out at .312" I shoot a .314" dia. bullet.

As far as the Unique goes it's a good powder for cast loads in rifles although I'm pretty much a long time fan of Alliant 2400 and Red Dot for my cast rifle loads in 7.62 x 39,54r,30-30 and my 300 Sav. Once you get you load and sights worked out try the little Lee .314 32 cal. 90 gr. TL SWC and 3.0 to 3.5 grs. of Alliant Bullseye in the 54r,it super accurate out to 50 yds. and sub-sonic and a great little plinker small game load.

Just to add,bullet can be sized to .311 with no issues as well and used in 30 cal. rifle form 30-30 to 30-06 with 3.0 to 3.5 grs. Bullseye with great results.
 
Thanks everyone lots of good info

Sks50 I have some hornady 32 Cal .314 90 gr HBWC and red dot powder do you think that may work as a pinker load?
 
Haven't use the HBWC but the Hornady .314 90 SWC is basically the same bullet as the Lee mold. I used those before I started casting my own and they worked fine I gave them an extra light coating of Lee Alox for good measure.

Bullseye is the only powder I can recommend with the little 90 gr. SWC as it ignites readily with small charges in large cases,I have no experience with Red Dot using that small of a charge or can I say that it safe in large capacity cases.

The lightest charge of Red Dot I have used is 6.0 grs. in my 30-30 plinker loads using 170 gr. RNFP bullets that load data comes from the Lyman cast bullet manual.
 
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