CBC 7.62 75 ammo

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I resurrected the CBC 75 ammo recall business from years back. I have a bunch that has sat untouched since then. I recall my partsman and I pulling a bunch and mixing the powder up and reloading, using the powder. This time I am pulling the bullets, dumping the powder. I rather like my old milsurps, as well, I really like my homely old face and fingers.

Found a thread at the IAA site. Interesting reading, but seems rather tough to clear up the whole affair.

https://forum.cartridgecollectors.org/t/recalled-cbc-7-62x51mm-ammo/7719/13

If any of you have this ammo, pull the bullets, dump the powder. You can re-use the bullets and the primed cases. It simply isn't worth the risk to use it as is, IMHO.
 
Ganderite wrote an article about the powder in those called back cases.

Apparently some pistol powder got put into one of the hoppers.

He took all of the powder and just dumped all of it into a large container and mixed it all together, then used it for plinking ammo.

I don't know how much of that stuff you have but the rounds doing the damage were mixed in with others that were loaded with the proper ball propellant.

If you've pulled the bullets before, you'll remember they used a black tar like sealant, that you have to break the bullet/neck free of.

If you clean those bullets, to remove that sealant, then weigh the bullets, you will be pleasantly surprised by how consistent the weights are. Quite good bullets for milspec from South America

The boxes should be labled in Portuguese "REINGESTADA" which roughly translates to reinserted or refilled.

Back when that stuff was first offered, I picked up a lot of it on group orders for some of my shooting buds as well as myself.

We bought maybe 20+K. I had four cases left and sold one to my next door neighbor.

He had just received a lovely 98 match rifle and wanted to shoot it, but didn't want to handload.

Out of all of those thousands of rounds and about half way through his case, he had a kaboom, that ruined the rifle and blew a tiny bit of brass back into his eye.

Yes, he always wears glasses now.

A few years ago this was brought up and Ganderite made some comments.

Shortly after that, I found a case of that batch, which I had set aside. The two other cases were shipped back to International, on their dime, for a full refund and some gift certificates which came close to what paid for the ammo. They never asked us to sign a waiver.

Anyway, I took that case of ammo and pulled all 1000 bullets.

Washed the tar off them in varsol, polished them

I put all of the powder into a 25 liter metal bucket and mixed it all together.

It had a burn rate, very similar to W748, of which I had several part containers, so I mixed that in as well.

The original powder charge in my ammo was around 46.0 grains average, which would be right in the ballpark for a W748 load with 150 grain bullets.

I got around 46k grains of powder from those cartridges and mixed it with another 3+ pounds of mixed lots of W748.

I reloaded all of those cases with the mixed powder lot and bullets, using 45.0 grains

That left me with almost 3.5 pounds of this mixed propellant, which was very consistent in burn rate.

If you've got a bunch of that powder, say enough for 1k rounds, I would happily take it off your hands, if I was close by.

I've shot all of that 1k rounds out of a Danish 98K conversion Match rifle and used the powder for reloading for that same rifle.

It's your powder and if you have enough to load a thousand rounds, IMHO it would be well worth blending it all together and maybe adding some powder of similar type.

You should be able to figure out what's in the cartridges by the weight of the powder and comparing it to loading tables.

All of mine used ball type powder. I suspect it was all loaded with ball type powder.

The Brazilians loved using powders similar to H335/W748/W760.

Of course, if you're uncomfortable doing this, DON'T. Or if there isn't enough to bother.
 
bearhunter: Good info. I remember doing much the same, but we didn't mix any powder in with it. We shot thousands of that ammo with no bad happenings. The stuff I am pulling now averages around 41.8ish and is all ball powder, so far. I do have some 748, and I will keep the powder from the rest of the ammo I have and mix some together.

The bullets weigh 142-144gr. I will run them in the vibrator for a while, too.
 
The CBC 75 stuff I've pulled so far doesn't have the tar-like sealer, or at least it's not holding. I did pull one S&B NATO 7.62x51 that did. The S&B has stubby stick powder and the proper NATO cross in a circle headstamp. It is nice ammo.
 
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CBC was loaded with both ball and with stick powders.

If you have a lot # loaded with stick - shoot it. Good ammo.

It was the ball powder ammo that had the problem. A keg of ball pistol powder got mixed in. Ball rifle and pistol powder look the same and there is no way to identify a contaminated round except the hard way. In one test, the pressure exceeded an estimated 200,000 psi. Blew up the pressure gun.

If you have 500 rounds of ball ammo, you can dump all the powder, mix it up and reload it.

Less than that, just pump it and reload with good powder.
 
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Here's a couple magnified pics of the CBC 75 powder:

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I have some of this, Bought it knowing it was dangerous(For collectors purposes), I keep it separate from the collection with a print out of how dangerous it is. Also some comparisons between 75 and 77, Powder looks similar in both, Crimp is crazy on the 75

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I finished pulling the bullets from around 3-400 of the CBC 75 ammo. I mixed in a half pound or so of 748, and reloaded 25 with 40-40.1 gr. of the mixed powder. I took one of my Israeli 7.62 98 Mausers, a DOU 45, and Deaner and I killed some rocks at our favorite place. All worked like a charm. The rifle didn't like loading with 5 rounds in the mag, so I loaded four at a time.

I also fired off 25 of the same brass and bullets with 37 gr of the old Ammo Mart 44 powder. They were a bit stiffer in recoil. Next batch I load with the 44 will be around 35 gr. All in all, a nice round to shoot with a good old Model 98.
 
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