CCI Quiets from an ANSCHUTZ? Anyone?

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My kid is just about to get his PAL - I'd like to get him a "lifetime" gun. Something he can shoot when I'm long dust and still be happy with.

I'm thinking an ANSCHUTZ with a quality scope. It's a stretch for me financially - but you only get to buy something like that once.

We shoot CCI Quiets a lot, from cheaper guns I have got over time, and like them a lot. Great for (legal) hunting on the down low and plinking in the woods without upsetting the neighbours.

I've seen on the CZ website that they specifically do not recommend CCI Quiets for their guns because of the extra fine tolerances of the barrel (though that may be a bit of a humble-brag) so I was wondering if anyone has tried them with an ANSCHUTZ?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts / opinions.
 
I could pop off a few through my 1710. Have shot them in my 452 Ultra Lux without problems. As a side note, they do slow down a lot in the long bbl, print 1/2 inch low at 20 yrds.
 
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I've shot them from my new 64 MP R "Tactical Trainer" with no issues. Just sniping shotgun hulls, never at paper doing any accuracy testing. Cycled/fired/ejected as they should. They work fine in my BRNO 2E as well. (CZ452 predecessor)

I love my new Anschutz..but I wouldn't hesitate buying a CZ 452 as a "lifetime" gun either. With dealers capitalizing on the disappearing 452s...and with Nordic Marksman offering some Anschutz rifles in the $1,000 range recently...it could be a toss-up.
 
Quiets suck for truly accurate shooting, try CCI SV's or Subsonic out of your Annie... they are both good out of our rifles.
 
I shoot 'quiets' out of my Norinco JW15 'Backpacker' and it's fine for potting grouse ,but the longer barrel rifles are even quieter
 
Ive done this all the time, you have to dial in the drop off and rezero and they lose a lot of speed in the barrel but they are soooooo quiet it's insane.

Of course all 22 rifles have ammo they love and ammo they hate and it's a bit unpredictable so they might group really well (mine does) or they might be all over the place. Even the exact same model rifle with the same lot of ammo can behave totally differently for grouping and an ammo that is awesome in one gun will suck in another
 
hoytcanon said:
Quiets suck for truly accurate shooting, try CCI SV's or Subsonic out of your Annie... they are both good out of our rifles.
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^ this right there.. I've never had much luck in the accuracy department from the quites, but the subsonics and SVs have been 1/2 decent in a few rifles.
 
Shooting quiets in an Anschutz is like pumping 87 octane in your Porsche 911. It'll work but there are better options....
 
I have a CZ452 and have shot quiets from it but I prefer CCI Minimag round point in all of my 22s. Quiet or not plinking in the woods may eventually lead to problems quiet or not. And accidents can happen especially when kids are involved. Even some adults I know.....
 
I've got a few pump rimfires and single shot boy's rifles that are up at and even over 100 years old. Out of respect for their age and fear for my face :) I picked up some Quiets to use in some of them for the low recoil forces. A couple of them shoot the Quiets REALLY well with groups at 25 yards that are at my own limits of vision with the often crappy sights. So don't say never....

On the other hand an Anschutz and scope combo really does lean towards and expectation for tiny little groups. As the others say the Quiets may work for that or they may not.
 
I don't see why the cz website would warn against shooting subsonics out of their bolt guns? On older guns the reverse might be true because HP rounds did not exist in the past so some guns (mostly .22 handguns) weren't designed for that extra pressure. But reducing the load will effect accuracy but will cause no harm the the rifle.

I have shot subsonics from my wife's 1416 and JGA with no problems. Heck, I shoot CBs out of the JGA. Just keep in mind that not all subsonics are created equal. I been having better reliability with the CCI but ironically better accuracy with the Remington subsonic.
 
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I don't see why the cz website would warn against shooting subsonics out of their bolt guns?
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Because if the round doesn't have the energy to clear the barrel and stays in there and then you fire a second shot with the barrel blocked by the first shot, the pressures will be super high and that's a big problem.
 
canmic has the right idea. The concern with CCI Quiet rounds is their low muzzle velocity of 710 fps (from CCI webpage on CCI Quiet 22LR ammunition). With such a low MV, the chances of a squib are greater. You can shoot them but make certain that if a round does not exit the barrel it is safely removed before shooting again. Otherwise there may be risk of causing a bulge in the barrel, and in an Anschutz the more's the pity.
 
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Garaldtao said:
I don't see why the cz website would warn against shooting subsonics out of their bolt guns?
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They say that it is because their barrels are bored to such tight tolerances that the pressure may not be enough to force the bullet all the way through the barrel. I think subsonics (running at ~1,000 fps) are OK, but Quiets (at 720 fps) are specifically listed as not.
 
I use 'quiet' munition on all my older 22's...the modern stuff can be too high pressure for some of the older guns...I discovered that when I broke a block on an old rolling block chambered in 'short'
 
linux99 said:
They say that it is because their barrels are bored to such tight tolerances that the pressure may not be enough to force the bullet all the way through the barrel. I think subsonics (running at ~1,000 fps) are OK, but Quiets (at 720 fps) are specifically listed as not.
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Marketing malarkey. Any ammo loaded to SAAMI and CIP specs is OK to shoot in CZ rifles, exceptions being long case cartridges such as stingers (cannot use in any match chambered barrel such as Anschütz and the like). Like grauhanen said, there is a greater chance of a squib with the reduced power loads so you must always look for positive confirmation that the round left the barrel before firing again. A squib can happen with any load so this is nothing special for "quiets" and CB's specifically, but since they are already quiet a squib round may not be as obvious to the shooter in sound and recoil as it would be compared to a standard load.

CZ-USA is posting information that CZ-UB doesn't agree with regarding subsonic ammo.

http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1017201
 
I have a very accurate custom barreled .22LR bolt action... It shoots a variety of ammunition (subsonic [standard velocity] and high velocity) from very well to excellent. It shoots the CB quiet ammunition absolutely terribly compared to everything else. Since .22 LR subsonic shoot very well I suggest using it for best accuracy and still fairly quiet.
 
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