CCI Standard Velocity vs CCI Blazers

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Hi,
At the range this morning, I used SV rounds at 25 yards, to see how they compare to CCI Blazers.

I shot 2 boxes of SV ammo, and 4 boxes of HV. In general the SV rounds grouped a bit better - you can tell they are more consistent. However, my best group of the morning was with Blazers. Go figure.

I'm pretty sure this shows that my shooting is the largest variable. I also had two stovepipes with SV ammo, but none with Blazers. I'm wondering if I had a couple of under powered rounds that didn't cycle the bolt right.

All in all, it seems to me that the SV stuff is better. Next time out I'll compare at 50 yards and see. Depending what that shows, I may just use Blazers until I can shoot consistently. This may take a while. ;)

Cheers,
Neil
 
I imagine pushing your target out to 50 yards will show you a better range of results. I'm not saying that Blazers can't/shouldn't perform better in your specific rifle. I'm just saying that at 50 yards the variables are "more equal" all around.
 
I hear you guys - I get that. And also, I have no idea how I'll shoot at 50 yards with peep sights.

I did notice two things though. Fewer fliers and usually tighter groups.

Cheers,
Neil
 
neilselden said:
I also had two stovepipes with SV ammo, but none with Blazers. I'm wondering if I had a couple of under powered rounds that didn't cycle the bolt right.
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You didn't say what gun? Assuming a semi-auto. Didn't think SV would cycle the action that well.
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neilselden said:
I hear you guys - I get that. And also, I have no idea how I'll shoot at 50 yards with peep sights.

I did notice two things though. Fewer fliers and usually tighter groups.

Cheers,
Neil
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I had a CZ 452 silhouette that would shoot blazers unbelievably. This was six or so years ago and I was buying it for $30 plus tax a brick and lovin it.
 
mb571 said:
You didn't say what gun? Assuming a semi-auto. Didn't think SV would cycle the action that well.
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Marlin 989. Basic Marlin semi-auto .22.

Shooting the SV was nice. Less noise and I think it is more consistent.

2 stovepipes out of 100 rounds... I'm not crazy about that, bit it could be a fluke.
 
Longstud said:
I had a CZ 452 silhouette that would shoot blazers unbelievably. This was six or so years ago and I was buying it for $30 plus tax a brick and lovin it.
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Nice! I haven't handled a CZ before, but I've heard how accurate they are (can be?). Anyways, I love their wood stocks.

Yeah, $0.06 a round is tasty. Tenda had a great sale a little while ago. The local range has Blazers for about 8 cents a round, and CCI SV at about 9 cents a round. Pretty good prices.
 
neilselden said:
Nice! I haven't handled a CZ before, but I've heard how accurate they are (can be?). Anyways, I love their wood stocks.

Yeah, $0.06 a round is tasty. Tenda had a great sale a little while ago. The local range has Blazers for about 8 cents a round, and CCI SV at about 9 cents a round. Pretty good prices.
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I use a CZ 455 "Trainer" as my "long range" .22. At 50 yards, the CCI SV was either a bit to a lot tighter than about any thing else I tried, including Mini-mags, Stingers, Blazer, Eley sport, a bunch of different federals.

Shooting from either a bench or bi-pod using about a 30 year old Tasco 6 x 24 Mil Dot Target scope, I have sighted it in at 50 yards dead on the cross-hairs, and if I do my part, most groups are < 3/4" outside to outside. At 100 yards, I need to sight to the top point of the thick portion of the vertical cross hair. That puts them, again, when I do my part, inside 1-1 1/2" at 100 yards. BTW, at 100 yards stingers shoot amazingly tight groups, but the point of impact is considerably higher. I have not taken the time to sight those in, as I find this rifle to be a bit heavy, weight wise, to use on varmints.
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Meroh said:
I use a CZ 455 "Trainer" as my "long range" .22. At 50 yards, the CCI SV was either a bit to a lot tighter than about any thing else I tried, including Mini-mags, Stingers, Blazer, Eley sport, a bunch of different federals.

Shooting from either a bench or bi-pod using about a 30 year old Tasco 6 x 24 Mil Dot Target scope, I have sighted it in at 50 yards dead on the cross-hairs, and if I do my part, most groups are < 3/4" outside to outside. At 100 yards, I need to sight to the top point of the thick portion of the vertical cross hair. That puts them, again, when I do my part, inside 1-1 1/2" at 100 yards. BTW, at 100 yards stingers shoot amazingly tight groups, but the point of impact is considerably higher. I have not taken the time to sight those in, as I find this rifle to be a bit heavy, weight wise, to use on varmints.
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I like that scope reticle.

I'm using aperture sights and I doubt my eyes are good enough to shoot past 100 yards. So I've zero'd for now at 25 yards, and will zero for 50 yards soon - just after a little more practice at short range. The 50 yard zero should give a point blank range out to 65 yards with HV (+/- 1" from point of aim), and 60 yards with SV (+/- 1" from point of aim). With some practice, I'll figure out my holdover out to 100 yards.

I've had my eye on the Leupold FX-II rimfire scope, but I'm not buying it until I see what I can really do with irons.

Cheers,
Neil
 
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HeliMD said:
I found my t1x shoots better groups with CCI mini mag RN better than the CCI SV target as well haven't tried the blazers though. This is at 50yrds .
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Go figure! There's some mystique about which rifle likes which ammo - even to the point that different rifles of the same model may not like the same ammo. Or so I hear - I don't have enough experience to have seen it myself.

Maybe it's a good thing people don't load/reload 22 rimfire - then the debates would be absolutely endless. :)

All in all though, it seems to me that most people get acceptable results with CCI ammo. And I think .22 Marlins in particular like them a lot.

Cheers,
Neil
 
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All of me CZ's shoot beauty with Blasers & me Bergara B-14R puts them into gopher zone easy enough out a tad past 100 yds if the wind be not a blowin'.
Good critter dumpers the Blazers be. ;)
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^yep. :) This is the second time today I've posted an mentioned gophers (what I was supposed to be doing the first week of June :( ....f***in' Covid)..but CCI Blazers through my 452 Varmint=my gopher-slayer of choice. I run mine through a Waltz die to create a massive hollow-point. Smacks them hard with an audible "pop". Rearranges them pretty good too. Photos on request. :p
 
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^yep. :) This is the second time today I've posted an mentioned gophers (what I was supposed to be doing the first week of June :( ....f***in' Covid)..but CCI Blazers through my 452 Varmint=my gopher-slayer of choice. I run mine through a Waltz die to create a massive hollow-point. Smacks them hard with an audible "pop". Rearranges them pretty good too. Photos on request. :p
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Good lord - exploding gophers. :p

What do you like about making your own hollow points vs commercial ones? Wait - scratch that. I just looked and found this page. That die seems to make deep and wide cavities. Suddenly, exploding gophers make sense!

Cheers,
Neil
 
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.22LRGUY said:
^yep. :) This is the second time today I've posted an mentioned gophers (what I was supposed to be doing the first week of June :( ....f***in' Covid)..but CCI Blazers through my 452 Varmint=my gopher-slayer of choice. I run mine through a Waltz die to create a massive hollow-point. Smacks them hard with an audible "pop". Rearranges them pretty good too. Photos on request. :p
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Do you find any loss in accuracy with your modified rounds? I've never shot gophers so excuse my ignorance but they're a pest as I understand. Are there huge numbers of them where you hunt?
 
Hi Neil - I have a Marlin 60 and a Savage 64 and both will cycle the SVs OK. :) Even the 'good ones' like SK and Eley. :rolleyes: I agree with HeliMD that the CCI 40gRNL are more accurate than the SV or the MM-HPHV. Also the Fed BlackPak 398g HP are pretty accurate. I can get under 3/4" at 50 with both rifles, tho the Marlin is a tad better. But I have a 4-12 on it and just a 3-9 on the Savage so that may just be that difference showing. Time for a new scope ?? :cool:
And about the 'modified' bullets - I read online about the 3 main vendors and I feel Paco Kelly has the 'best deal' for the money. And the variety of his 'molds', but I don't know about the accuracy of any of the rounds. Haven't sprung for them yet. I don't hunt .22s around here so it's sorta moot for me.
 
neilselden said:
I like that scope reticle.

I'm using aperture sights and I doubt my eyes are good enough to shoot past 100 yards. So I've zero'd for now at 25 yards, and will zero for 50 yards soon - just after a little more practice at short range. The 50 yard zero should give a point blank range out to 65 yards with HV (+/- 1" from point of aim), and 60 yards with SV (+/- 1" from point of aim). With some practice, I'll figure out my holdover out to 100 yards.

I've had my eye on the Leupold FX-II rimfire scope, but I'm not buying it until I see what I can really do with irons.

Cheers,
Neil
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My eyes are about the same. Presently, I have 3 .22s I shoot regularly, the oldest uses an aperture sight, a Cooey 78, the one I mentioned above, and a CZ452 Lux with CZ's tangent sight. Despite my eyes, when I shoot free-hand, often I shoot as good as, or better with irons.

I put a Scorpion scope on my 17 HMR, it has a plain duplex retical (no mil dots), but does have balistic turret cap graduated for 17 gr. 17 HMR, and it works well; returns to zero each time.
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