CCI Velocitors - I'm impressed

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My Dad and I were at the range this week; he had brought some CCI Velocitors (40gr HP, 1435fps) with him to try out. Neither he nor I had any previous experience with them. While I was testing out some new loads with my .17 Hornet, he grabbed my CZ to see how they performed in my rifle, as well as in his Remington 597.

He chronographed them, along with some Rem Yellow Jackets I had just found at Walmart, and some CCI Mini-Mags (36gr HP). We already knew what to expect from the MM's but clocked them along with the others just for a point of reference.

After he'd finished up with the chronograph, he gave me half a box of the Velocitors so I could see how they grouped in my gun. I shot five groups of five at 50 yards; each group was right around .5"; I was impressed. Below are the velocities he recorded for each load, in both my gun and his. There was a guy firing 12ga slugs close by and the blast from his shots caused errors for the last MM and the first Velocitor from my gun, but the balance of the velocities will give a representative idea what I can expect.

Here are the results from my rifle (CZ 452 Varmint):

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Here are the results from my Dad's 597:

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I have found my hunting load for my CZ :)

I picked up a couple boxes on the way home from the range and put them away to hunt with.
 
I love velocitors in most of my rimfires. Good accuracy and hits pretty hard on gophers. Only real problem I've run into is not a lot of places seem to keep it in stock.
 
Rimfire Research & Development has a good article on these. CCI in general seem to be consistently good. For small game, their Small Game Bullet (40 gr. solid with a flat nose) is supposed to be very effective but they are hard to find. The last time I was in WSS (in Langley BC) they had a good stock of Velocitors. No SGB, though.
 
These shot great out of a TOZ 12 I had. well under 1/2" at 50. I have 2 bricks at this time and will grab more if I can find them. Last brick was bought at Orangeville gun show for $55(and they say there are no deals at gun shows) I like the SGB shells as well.
Scott...
 
Ron AKA said:
I tested Velocitors about 8 years ago along with CCI Stingers, Remington Yellow Jackets, and Remington Vipers. The Velocitors were the best of the bunch and right up there with the other lower quality HV ammo. The Stinger was a bit back, and the Remingtons were junk, right down there with Golden Bullets. The MiniMags I tried were well below average, and I consider them way over priced . In the target category CCI Green Tags are pretty good, but not up there with the best Lapua and Eley.

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You've posted this chart a number of times recently, Ron, and there's a lot of data there, but it really isn't relevant to me. I'm not interested in the most accurate .22lr cartridge available. I am interested primarily in what will be the most effective hunting cartridge. The "high end", high precision target stuff is meaningless to me as I see my .22 as a hunting gun first. All of my rifles are hunting tools first, for that matter.

So I care about down range performance, which in my world means "good enough" accuracy combined with adequate terminal performance. A consistent 2-3" group at 100 yards is perfectly adequate for hunting with a .22 as long as the bullet carries sufficient velocity, weight and expansion to get the job done. For the purposes of hunting, the target stuff is totally useless from my perspective.

But I'm a hunter first of all; I shoot targets regularly at our range, but always from the perspective of trying to understand how a given cartridge would perform in the field. I realize that this is not the case for many other shooters.
 
Sorry, but I shoot with a .22LR. I don't consider it a hunting cartridge. SK HV HP is my choice for shooting gophers.
 
I love Velocitors and find them to be super accurate. What I find about all rimfire ammo is that it doesn't come anywhere near its published velocities.
 
saskcop said:
What I find about all rimfire ammo is that it doesn't come anywhere near its published velocities.
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No? I chronographed some Federal Match 992A, box velocity 1080 fps. My results: 1074, 1081, 1074, 1079, 1092, 1085, 1090, 1083, 1082, 1073. Seems pretty spot on to me. However..... in a different rifle there was an average 40 fps drop and it shot around the 1040 range. Depends on your barrel length and bore tightness.
 
saskcop said:
I love Velocitors and find them to be super accurate. What I find about all rimfire ammo is that it doesn't come anywhere near its published velocities.
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As did the Rabid Mouse, I have found some chronographed velocities to exceed what's on the box depending on which gun they are fired in. Earlier this year I did a brief comparison between two loads in my two .22's and for both brands of ammo, they exceeded the velocity spec from my CZ, but when fired from my Win 490, one was just about on spec (Eley Target), but the other (mini-mags) were low by about 50fps.

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As can be seen from my original post, in my Dad's 597, mini-mags shot above spec, but the velocitors and Yellow Jackets are slow. So it does indeed seem to correlate directly to the rifle being used. CZ claims their rifles have a tighter bore and this may be true and the cause of the higher velocities. I also have a theory (just a theory) that semi-autos lose some pressure and therefore velocity to driving the action of the gun.

At any rate, the Velocitors are a pretty impressive cartridge; accurate and relatively powerful for a .22lr.
 
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MajorMalcontent;
Good morning to you sir, I hope the time change weekend has been treating you well thus far.

We live on a small acreage in between a number of vineyard and vineyard/winery neighbors in rural BC. Depending on the local marmot population that year and how many of the neighbors are trying to be chicken farmers for the summer, our coyote population can become a bit too high - especially so for our resident 4 legged mouse and rat trap felines.....

While we can legally discharge firearms here as long as we're far enough from our buildings, I prefer a .22 rimfire as it's reasonably quiet and doesn't disturb the tourists who might be enjoying a wine tasting that afternoon when I'm explaining to a coyote it really and truly shouldn't be eating one of our cats.

After trying a number of different rounds on unwilling subjects, I've settled on the CCI Velocitor as the load of choice. In fact the first coyote hit by one impressed me so much that I emailed CCI and sent them a cyber tip of the hat. It was an adult female - trotting at a slight going away angle to me at about 60 yards that upon receiving the little 40gr HP in the mid chest, cardio pulmonary system - simply flopped on her side with her tail twitching in the air.

That's honestly the first time I'd seen a rimfire do that with a coyote and I need to assure the gentle reader we'd done multiple samplings over the years. It was more like I'd come to expect out of my .22-250AI - though of course the exit wound wasn't as large with the rimfire as with it.

Anyway I want to say there's been at least two and perhaps three more coyotes who've succumbed to similar treatment in the years since, all taking only a single Velocitor to convince them to cease and desist.

That's the report from here in south central BC for whatever it's worth to you sir, hopefully it was useful if nothing else. Good luck with your hunts this fall and all the best to you folks.

Dwayne
 
I must be the odd duck here, cause the CZ 452 loves American Eagle HP and CCI Quick Shock .
The ammo of choice for the CZ's that have been in my locker and the gophers never complained when their brains exploded into a pink mist.
Yup, must be the odd duck fer sure..
Tight Groups,
Rob
 
BC30cal said:
MajorMalcontent;
Good morning to you sir, I hope the time change weekend has been treating you well thus far.

We live on a small acreage in between a number of vineyard and vineyard/winery neighbors in rural BC. Depending on the local marmot population that year and how many of the neighbors are trying to be chicken farmers for the summer, our coyote population can become a bit too high - especially so for our resident 4 legged mouse and rat trap felines.....

While we can legally discharge firearms here as long as we're far enough from our buildings, I prefer a .22 rimfire as it's reasonably quiet and doesn't disturb the tourists who might be enjoying a wine tasting that afternoon when I'm explaining to a coyote it really and truly shouldn't be eating one of our cats.

After trying a number of different rounds on unwilling subjects, I've settled on the CCI Velocitor as the load of choice. In fact the first coyote hit by one impressed me so much that I emailed CCI and sent them a cyber tip of the hat. It was an adult female - trotting at a slight going away angle to me at about 60 yards that upon receiving the little 40gr HP in the mid chest, cardio pulmonary system - simply flopped on her side with her tail twitching in the air.

That's honestly the first time I'd seen a rimfire do that with a coyote and I need to assure the gentle reader we'd done multiple samplings over the years. It was more like I'd come to expect out of my .22-250AI - though of course the exit wound wasn't as large with the rimfire as with it.

Anyway I want to say there's been at least two and perhaps three more coyotes who've succumbed to similar treatment in the years since, all taking only a single Velocitor to convince them to cease and desist.

That's the report from here in south central BC for whatever it's worth to you sir, hopefully it was useful if nothing else. Good luck with your hunts this fall and all the best to you folks.

Dwayne
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Great post, Dwayne, and very helpful indeed. I have no illusions about the ballistics of the .22lr as a class, but I know they are far more lethal than they are given credit for when used judiciously. Good to hear your experience with the Velocitors aligns with what I thought might be possible. Highly accurate, a full weight bullet with a hollow point and an honest 1400fps is a pretty potent combination in a .22.

I lived in a remote village in an African country for several years and relied on a scoped .22 pump action and a 16ga single shot shotgun for game meat and general protection from lions and whatnot. I dropped many, many warthogs in their tracks with a .22 solid at standard velocity by carefully placing that potent little pill halfway between the ear canal and the eye. They would reliably drop like stones as they say.

Thanks again for sharing your experience with those wascally coyotes. I will share your tale with my Dad as well, because we thought we might try them on coyotes here in Ontario this winter.

Cheers.
 
Try cci stingers next 1640fps from a 32gr, you should enjoy those just as much if not even more so then velocitors. They tend be fairly accurate from my experience with my cooey 39.
 
My cz 452 varmint shoots cci Blazers into one hole at 50-60 yards 5-10 shot groups. For real. Wish I had take a photo of it. Can't find Blazers anywhere in Manitoba. It's doesn't like mini mags at all. Win dyna points are pretty good in it. It likes those really lubed up bullets lol
 
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