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Cerakote Questions
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The fact of the matter is, regardless of what I say, you will have an obnoxious retort, no matter how hypocritical.
I will only entertain an answer to see if you can truly keep your word which you have failed to from the start.
Spending more money on coatings is bad business... therefore companies award contracts to the lowest bidder, simple...
You think Cerakote is charging major manufacturers $34 per 4oz bottle?
I will only entertain an answer to see if you can truly keep your word which you have failed to from the start.
Spending more money on coatings is bad business... therefore companies award contracts to the lowest bidder, simple...
You think Cerakote is charging major manufacturers $34 per 4oz bottle?
Have you considered that Cerakote might be giving the major manufacturers a really, really cheap price on their product...? Specifically, to flood the market with their product and create the impression that they are superior product and preferred by major gun manufacturers?????
I am a 25 year senior level, sales & marketing veteran... and this I precisely what I would do.
Are you really so naïve that you think product superiority is the one and only criteria being considered by these major manufacturers?? Really?? Well, here is a wake-up call for you. Cost is always the first criteria, and often the only criteria. Everything else is comparitively unimportant.
There are countless examples of inferior products dominating the market because of creative (and often misleading) marketing and/or other tactics. VCRs are a perfect example. VHS v. Betamax. Betamax was far superior but the folks behind VHS got in bed with any manufacturer that was interested (like Cerakote) and flooded the market effectively killing Betamax.
Here's a tip... Generally speaking. the more money a company spends on marketing and advertising (and selling cheap to major gun manufacturers is most definitely a form of marketing) - the more questionable the product is. There are exceptions, but my experience having seen both sides of the purchase transaction (purchaser and seller/manufacturer) is that this concept holds true more often than not.
And all the 'scientific' evidence you believe in so much?? When a 3rd party is tasked with a comparison study like this, it is seldom un-biased. The 3rd party is told, "... we want you to prove our product is superior" by their employer, and so they go about devising tests and performing tests until they get the results that were requested. When a test shows their product to be inferior, they bury the results and keep trying new tests until they get the results that they are looking for.
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I'm interested in getting my next pistol done.
Is it to much to ask for photos of each on this thread? I realize photos don't prove how well it will stand up but this gun won't be in a holster and won't be fired outdoors and my gun oil shouldn't hurt either finish and if my house floods to the point they're submerged ill have bigger issues then a rusted pistol
Gun Cote and cerokote. Black finish and a colored finish if possible?
I worked in a paint booth with $150 000+ trucks. I know prep work is the base for a perfect job
Is it to much to ask for photos of each on this thread? I realize photos don't prove how well it will stand up but this gun won't be in a holster and won't be fired outdoors and my gun oil shouldn't hurt either finish and if my house floods to the point they're submerged ill have bigger issues then a rusted pistol
Gun Cote and cerokote. Black finish and a colored finish if possible?
I worked in a paint booth with $150 000+ trucks. I know prep work is the base for a perfect job
I thought my explanations were quite clear and factual but apparently not. I cannot leave this alone when so many things have been written without any base in fact.
Major and custom gun manufacturers do not go with the cheapest product or they would buy guncoat. They will try and get the best deal when they contract out the work. They cannot afford to have the headaches of re finishing bad work or the negative publicity. It could ruin some of the smaller companies so they avoid the problem by going with the best product available. It really is a very small cost compared to the rest of the manufacturing processes.
They do not buy 34.00 testers because they buy by the gallon.
N.I.C. industries does not accept test results that are not valid or they will be easily exposed or sued . Hasn't happened yet. Sometimes the best is simply the best which is always hard to accept if you are the competition.
It is not fair to assume that N.I.C. industries conducts shady testing or business practice simply because others have done so. Prove it or zip it.
Once again, none of the numerous manufacturers who carry a line of Cerakoted firearms would ever do this because of some creative marketing genius. They pay the same price for the product as the Certified applicators which is the same as the single purchase consumer. Don't believe me if you chose but you would be wrong.
Advertising a business without being a sponsor is not allowed. I should know as I inadvertently did this before I became a sponsor. Cerakote B.C.
Everyone is free to chose the product or applicator they believe is the best match for their needs. I just would like to remove any inaccuracies about the product I support. Some of the other products are very good and gets into splitting hairs at some point. I too have a background in sales and marketing, and have never used shady marketing tactics to sell a product and rarely tried to sell my product line based on being the lowest bidder. I lost some sales because of this but my integrity meant more.
It would be interesting to see which brand of paint the automotive industry uses the most. I have NO idea, but I can bet they have some good reasons for their choice other than creative marketing campaigns or the lowest bidder. There is too much at stake. Remember some of the vehicles in the 80's where the paint almost blew off driving down the highway. Not good for business.
Major and custom gun manufacturers do not go with the cheapest product or they would buy guncoat. They will try and get the best deal when they contract out the work. They cannot afford to have the headaches of re finishing bad work or the negative publicity. It could ruin some of the smaller companies so they avoid the problem by going with the best product available. It really is a very small cost compared to the rest of the manufacturing processes.
They do not buy 34.00 testers because they buy by the gallon.
N.I.C. industries does not accept test results that are not valid or they will be easily exposed or sued . Hasn't happened yet. Sometimes the best is simply the best which is always hard to accept if you are the competition.
It is not fair to assume that N.I.C. industries conducts shady testing or business practice simply because others have done so. Prove it or zip it.
Once again, none of the numerous manufacturers who carry a line of Cerakoted firearms would ever do this because of some creative marketing genius. They pay the same price for the product as the Certified applicators which is the same as the single purchase consumer. Don't believe me if you chose but you would be wrong.
Advertising a business without being a sponsor is not allowed. I should know as I inadvertently did this before I became a sponsor. Cerakote B.C.
Everyone is free to chose the product or applicator they believe is the best match for their needs. I just would like to remove any inaccuracies about the product I support. Some of the other products are very good and gets into splitting hairs at some point. I too have a background in sales and marketing, and have never used shady marketing tactics to sell a product and rarely tried to sell my product line based on being the lowest bidder. I lost some sales because of this but my integrity meant more.
It would be interesting to see which brand of paint the automotive industry uses the most. I have NO idea, but I can bet they have some good reasons for their choice other than creative marketing campaigns or the lowest bidder. There is too much at stake. Remember some of the vehicles in the 80's where the paint almost blew off driving down the highway. Not good for business.
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I never have used either of these products YET but...In audio Bose spends millions and its known since the 80's Bose for most part is/was crap, but they used to dominate in advertising....enuff said....
