CFB Borden Service CQB Clinic 18 July 09

Things I learned from the CQB clinic:

- It's harder to be accurate even at close range while shooting standing. This ain't a 'sitting at the bench' game. It's even harder to be accurate when you're shooting, moving, shooting, moving. Being in shape is going to help with this thing.

- Having a mixed bag of magazines of various reliabilty is bad. Stress test those mags and use them all.

- Gotta watch my COAL on .223 reloads. Should be loading a bunch and trying them out before a match, not the day of.

- Have to play with the position of my mag pouches for maximum utility. Can't get at that pistol pouch on my strong hand upper chest in a hurry.

- Have to remember my pistol isn't cocked and locked in the holster. Pulled it out a few times and got "click". Used to IPSC. Again, practise.

- When I sling my AR-15 against my back the bolt release sometimes gets hit, giving me a bit of a start.

- AR-15s aren't the easiest things to unjam. Have to work with some dud rounds and work on jam drills.

- This service rifle stuff is really fun. :)

- I like my new Elcan. <B

- People who show up to these events are great, friendly and helpful. Wonderful day!
 
Ice-Pick said:
Must be married with kids, laff.

(like me)

M.
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Ye been there done that......

Now to the more serious stuff. IMHO ONLY I think using a pistol caliber carbine might give the edge with less recoil. The 2nd thing is to use a handgun with the same magazine as the carbine. That will leave you less space for confusion.

For certain this game requires practice practice and more practice but it is all fun unless the target is shooting back.
 
Now to the more serious stuff. IMHO ONLY I think using a pistol caliber carbine might give the edge with less recoil. The 2nd thing is to use a handgun with the same magazine as the carbine. That will leave you less space for confusion.
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I had the thought of using something like a CX4 and a storm pistol. That'd be great, just grab whatever magazine is handy and you're good to go.

Be in trouble out at 200 yards though. ;)

Maybe that's something that Tim and Barney could incorporate into a future practice.. IA's
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Spread some snap caps around randomly? ;) Going to be practising my unjamming at home a bit I'm thinking.
 
Lawrence D said:
I think using a pistol caliber carbine might give the edge with less recoil.
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That's what I was thinking reading all your reviews. It'd be interesting to cheat with the AR15 and use a .22LR conversion kit. My 20" Hbar has zero recoil firing 22LR, it's like firing a BB gun. Would make keeping on target for rapid follow ups much easier. Would definitely need to practice clearing jams though. Cheap 22LR isn't as reliable as .223.
 
I wouldn't dream of using the Cx4 over 100m MAX. But cheaper ammo and more control. Same goes with the 22 coversion. I think it's agreat idea. Too bad the GSG5 never made it. It would be fantastic for this CQB.
 
If I were the one making the rules (and I'm not :D) I would say that the carbine must shoot at a minimum a rifle cartridge of .223 or more. Using small pistol calibers kinda defeats the purpose, that being to test your skill with the carbine. Managing the minimal recoil of a modern rifle caliber carbine is one of those skills IMHO.

For example, yes a 9mm carbine is easy but so is standing 1m away from the target for the whole match ;).
 
I almost shot the CQB clinic with my 10/22, but got my ATT just in time. I might bring it next time just for fun, I've got lots of mags. :>

GSG5
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I read a review of that thing a few months ago and immediately started looking around for one. Gah.

Don't see a reason for a seperate match for SMG/Carbine, I don't think my .223 kicks much more than my buddy's .45 carbine, if at all.
 
The 1st CQB was played with 9mm.

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It is also cheaper and I can carry more ammo that way.
 
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