Cfe 223

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"CARBON FOULING ERASER" any experience or fedback, it sounds promising.
it will be for my 223, interested for the ff. info
how it meters, doest it really works as advertised
accuracy,sensitivity to temp. and does it Generates heat and bbl flash.
Right now Im using the VV530, quite happy with it, but the cost including shipping/hazmat is killing me. H335 and WW748 are my alternative powders especially for my 55grs. Thanks
 
ffgats said:
"CARBON FOULING ERASER" any experience or fedback, it sounds promising.
it will be for my 223, interested for the ff. info
how it meters, doest it really works as advertised
accuracy,sensitivity to temp. and does it Generates heat and bbl flash.
Right now Im using the VV530, quite happy with it, but the cost including shipping/hazmat is killing me. H335 and WW748 are my alternative powders especially for my 55grs. Thanks
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It's actually Copper Fouling Eraser. I've got a few pounds ordered but it's going to be a couple of months before I can get around to testing.
 
I've used it behind nosler 55gr varmegeddons and it shot great. I didn't really notice if if the barrel was any cleaner after shooting compared to the h335 I usually shot through it.
 
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It has fine abrasives in it I know that much.
I'm told that it works excelent for light weight 6mm and 6.5mm projectiles too.
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Do you recall where you heard this? My understanding is there is a chemical additive that reduces the fouling rather than a mechanical abrasive.

But that knowledge was gained on the accurateshooter.com or sniper's hide forum so who knows?
 
I've read on a half dozen different forums that the chemical additive is an ultra fine heavy metal powder (bismuth I think) that is harder than copper but softer than barrel steel so it "scrubs" the barrel with each shot after the first to keep the copper from building up. It's an old technology developed for military ammo in chrome lined barrels. Hodgdon worked on it so it wont damage non-chrome barrels (theoretically).

I have a pound of it on my bench but haven't loaded anything with it yet. I bought it for 308 mostly though, not 223.
My Rem 700 in 308 copper fouls like mad. I'm just looking for an excuse to get rid of the stock Rem barrel and get a match one installed so I don't mind if it reduces barrel life.
Lots of reports of CFE223 being decently accurate but not as good as Hodgdon Benchmark. It apparently really does prevent copper fouling quite well.
I haven't read anything about reduced barrel life or excessive barrel wear so perhaps it really does work as advertised. It hasn't been out that long I suppose.

It's part of Hodgdons "Extreme" powder series so is supposed to be largely unaffected by temperature. I've used several of their Extreme powders from +35'C down to -15'C with no change in PoI at 100yds.
 
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I did some Google searching on CFE223 and some say the copper fouling is reduced it not prevented but it leaves behind a really fine grain/dust like powdered graphite that gets everywhere.
 
I tried some in my 223. 28grains of cfe to equal what 25.7gr of varget does for speed. Accuracy was better for me with varget. Also found the cfe to be dirtier then average powders. I will stick with varget or 4895
 
I use a lot of this powder in 204 and 6.5 and boy does it work!

About 3 pounds in past 6 months and I haven't found it to be too dirty.

Just my opinion
 
I have posted this before in other threads about CFE223. I have found it to be a good powder in my 222, with excellent results both accuracy wise and speed wise. The downfall I found was it is very temperature sensitive. From cool days to hot days, it could gain 200 fps in my little 222. Not sure what it would be like in a larger cartridge.
As for the copper fouling, I honestly didn't pay enough attention, whether it made any difference.
 
I have been using CFE 223 since it came out... I am now loading it in .223, .243, .260. 7mm-08, .308 and .30/30... it has replaced my favorite loads in .223, .30/30 and .308. I have not noticed it being cleaner or dirtier... but I have noticed better consistency and better accuracy than I could achieve with Varget, H4350 or H4895... I have 10 pounds awaiting me, so I have to get to work...
 
I like using CFE 223. BUT, it killed my RCBS chargemaster, and after contacting RCBS it is a known killer of their dispensers. Use with caution, or like me, weigh each charge by hand.
 
The fine grains get into the motor and cause it to fail. Mine failed about 120 charges from new, right after the third charge of CFE223 was dispensed and weighed. I contacted rcbs and the customer service representative infoed me that I was one of many that had the same problem.
 
Good thread. I was curious as my the powders I've been using for a few years for 55gn-62gn AR shooting (W748 and BL(C)-2) haven't been in stock at any of the local shops that I frequent.
To that end, I'm more about economy, good metering and fair accuracy when it comes to AR 223 powder.
 
CFE223 is not an Exteme powder and so is probably sensitive to temperature changes. I bought a pound of it and so far have only tried it in my 7mm-08. It gave erratic velocity and poor accuracy. It is a sperical powder so I probably should have used magnum primers instead of the standards that I did use. I got some copper fouling in the bore and more powder fouling than Varget gives. I'm not going to buy any more of it.
 
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