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OK What is "generation WPT" Have not heard of that before.
CGN'ers with Night Vision Experience - Need Help
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OK What is "generation WPT" Have not heard of that before.
AN/AVS-9 with the MX10160C are some of the best bino's money can buy imo. crystal clear with autogateing. Worth the pennies if you can find a set here in Canada. I'd sooner be homeless than let mine go.
As far as OP's question. I'd look at the used market for a set of US PVS-14 with a solid Gen 3 tube. White Phosphorus is cool but costs more for the cool guy factor. I've dealt with alot of different night vision and by far the US stuff is 10x better than what is available commercially up here through GSCI or ATN, both of which use cheap tubes. I compared a top end GSCI AN/PVS-31s to my older AN/VIS-9s and the AN/VIS made them look like toilet-paper tubes with green cellophane on them.
For some reason the airsoft guys have tons of access to US NVG's so I'd recommend checking out Airsoft Canada, its a hassle to get into the EE but they do have the market when it comes to NVG.
As far as OP's question. I'd look at the used market for a set of US PVS-14 with a solid Gen 3 tube. White Phosphorus is cool but costs more for the cool guy factor. I've dealt with alot of different night vision and by far the US stuff is 10x better than what is available commercially up here through GSCI or ATN, both of which use cheap tubes. I compared a top end GSCI AN/PVS-31s to my older AN/VIS-9s and the AN/VIS made them look like toilet-paper tubes with green cellophane on them.
For some reason the airsoft guys have tons of access to US NVG's so I'd recommend checking out Airsoft Canada, its a hassle to get into the EE but they do have the market when it comes to NVG.
X2. The PVS14 with a good GEN 3 tube and a good mounting system is the way for most civilians to go if they can afford it.
I need to upgrade my mounting system with a better quality J arm.
Look into Wilcox dovetail mounts over the USGI bayonet mounts. Less wobble/movement and far more reliable as it is used.
I've seen number PVS-14 with high quality US grade tubes for 3-5k depending on specs.
Agreed, PVS-14 is the go to for the average night vision user. I'd also recommend checking out AB NVM and Pitbull housings. They are more durable than the PVS-14 as they are made of machined POM instead of injection moulded. Make sure you get a US tube, ITT/Harris or L-3. A high end Russian Katod tube can be close to a mediocre US tube, but for the most part Russian tubes are crap. Photonis in France also makes decent tubes, but only the XD4, XR5, and 4G. Photonis is high end Gen 2, not Gen 3. ATN, GSCI, etc will generally give you very low end tubes, they prey upon those that don't know any better. Any one that knows half a thing about night vision laughs at their provided specs and made up terminology.
Get rid of the USGI Rhino, they're terrible. Go for a Wilcox G24 or Norotos AKA2, for the arm get a Wilcox dovetail or Norotos DDA. I prefer Wilcox G24 and Wilcox dovetail.
MX-10160C is excellent as far as standard tubes go. I used to own one, now I run L-3 film less white phosphor tubes in Mod3Bs. My spare set is a pair of MX-10160A.
Get rid of the USGI Rhino, they're terrible. Go for a Wilcox G24 or Norotos AKA2, for the arm get a Wilcox dovetail or Norotos DDA. I prefer Wilcox G24 and Wilcox dovetail.
MX-10160C is excellent as far as standard tubes go. I used to own one, now I run L-3 film less white phosphor tubes in Mod3Bs. My spare set is a pair of MX-10160A.
ITAR is not a ban, its a regulation. Its the same one that covers Aimpoint, EOTech, Surefire, Trijicon, Magpul, and tons of other brands that you can easily find in Canada.
There are tons of used or surplused NODs floating around.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/tacmkt/permalink/2155216168066114/?sale_post_id=2155216168066114
There are tons of used or surplused NODs floating around.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/tacmkt/permalink/2155216168066114/?sale_post_id=2155216168066114
Gen 3 NODs and >9hz or small pixel size thermal are very restricted by ITAR. Far more than any of the optics you mentioned.
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At the other end of the spectrum (ha ha) are binoculars and telescopes with very large objective lenses and limited magnification. I find my Mk I Eyeball, Human is suboptimall on night vision mode. The optic nerve attachment point or maybe some dead "pixels" on my retina give me blindspots when I look directly at something. Looking off is uncomfortable and I haven't trained my vision to stay off target. But, at night a pair of ordinary binoculars counteracts that physical imperfection, and I seem to see much better.
To the OPS stated purpose. Make sure you do not have a firearm or hunting weapon of any kind( crossbow etc) in your possession when using NV .Don't even have one in your trunk or anything just Make sure and leave them at home if you are going to use it to scout.
Why?
