change from "shooting" to "collecting" status possible?

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I asked this in another thread, but thought its worth a new thread of its own :

If you register a gun as your weapon to go target shooting, but then for some reason would have to stop going to the range (not enough time, low on cash, etc)...can you change the use of the pistol to a "collector" use so you don't have to get rid of your firearm?

is such a change permanent, or could it be a temporary thing?

thanks.
 
Is this some kind of Quebec law? I've never been asked if i'm a collector or a shooter.. i shoot all my guns..

if you belong to a club, you get an ATT and you shoot it.. if your ATT expires and you're not a member of a club, you can't shoot it anywhere, but i wouldn't phone the CFC and tell them anything..

there's no law or requirement that i'm aware of in the FA that says you have to be a collector or a shooter.. there's nothing on your license that identifies you as either one.

again, unless its a Quebec thing.
 
In the RCMP CAFC998 application to register a firearm for indivduals, it asks if your gun will be used for shooting, collecting, profession, or protect life (2 last ones have to be work related and don't apply to recreationnal gun owners)

So it seems to be federal.

Is this question just a formality? i've heard it was important for the CFO that you belong to a range, otherwise they can ask you to turn in or sell your firearm

What i'm really asking is, if you don't renew your ATT at some point, will you have the CFO on your ass because your gun is sitting at home?
 
First of all, thatsmore of a census type question than anything else.

Secondly, even if your not taking it to the range on a regular basis its primary purpose is still to be fired at targets; correct? Just because you haven't taken "rifle x" to the range in six months doesn't mean its primary purpose isn't shooting. It just means you have a busy schedule or a lack of funds. Don't worry.

In the mean time, do everything you can to get back to the range!
 
actually i'm not in the situation of not being able to go to the range. The reason why i post this in the newbie section is that i have not yet acquired the said pistol. And i'm just trying to plan every scenario possible to know how to do things properly and what to do in certain cases. Yes indeed, i am getting a gun for the purpose of shooting it. But after seeing this info asked on the form, the question popped in my mind...just like a "what if"
 
i would play it safe and say its for target shooting.. there cant possibly be a limit as to how many times you have to take it to a range.. that way if you ever do join a club, you can shoot it and if you dont, you can collect..

this collector/shooter classification really is a bunch of BS.. if you qualified to get a restricted license and went thru all the hoops of getting one, it should be none of their business what you do with your firearm.
 
sewktbk said:
Yes indeed, i am getting a gun for the purpose of shooting it. But after seeing this info asked on the form, the question popped in my mind...just like a "what if"
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That's what it is all for. To make you think like that. You don't have to get rid of your guns if you stop going to the range. Nobody said so.
Stop the defeatist thinking. Question your own attitudes.
 
In Quebec, if you have a restricted firearm for the purpose of target shooting you must be a member of a range. Futhermore, you must have signed the member sign in book at least once a year to prove that you are actually using your firearms for target shooting.

The form (CAFC998) asks you what is the purpose for your restricted firearm because they want to make sure that you have a valid reason to own one. I thought this was the case all accross Canada, but I could be wrong. I was told this by the CFO in Quebec.
 
i haven't gotten the full chance of seeing and experiencing how all their bureaucracy works. I'm not a conformist by nature, just unexperienced at the time, which makes me a little unsure of some stuff here. its not a defeating thinking, just a rookie one. The "#### them" attitude should kick in pretty quick, don't worry :p.
 
The "f**K them" attitude might not work here in Quebec. The man is always looking for ways to take your guns and rights away. Sad I know... but that is life in the place we call home.
 
So Avilon514, what you're saying is the guy will check the range registry to see if every RPAL went there at least once a year?

Again, this should not be an issue, i don't see why i wouldnt be able to do that, nor would i want to...but just saying...
 
:p I didn't make the rules. You can ask the SQ how they tend to enforce this issue. Maybe they'll give it a cool name like... Operation Teabag :p
 
Avilon514 said:
In Quebec, if you have a restricted firearm for the purpose of target shooting you must be a member of a range. Futhermore, you must have signed the member sign in book at least once a year to prove that you are actually using your firearms for target shooting.

The form (CAFC998) asks you what is the purpose for your restricted firearm because they want to make sure that you have a valid reason to own one. I thought this was the case all accross Canada, but I could be wrong. I was told this by the CFO in Quebec.
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in alberta, i own and shoot restricted firearms without a club membership. i bought a $40 associate membership in order to satisfy the requirements of the CFO, but now i dont go enough to justify the cost of a regular membership so i pay the drop in fee and dont sign anything to prove that i paid.

i am a licensed owner and i have never used any of my firearms recklessly or committed a criminal offence with them. there would be no reason for the CFO to attempt to force me into surrendering them.
 
I wish I could just up and leave to Alberta. When it comes to firearms ownership and rights (from what I hear) I don't think there's a better place to live in Canada than Alberta.
 
There are TWO acceptable reasons to own restricted firearms in "Canada" and self defence is NOT one of them!

  1. Target Shooting
  2. Collection
To obtain collector status, you must request it from the CFO who in turn gives you a 30-45 minute telephone qualification exam.

If the day comes where you decide NOT to renew your range membership, you MUST have "collector" status otherwise the CFO can request you dispose of your restricted firearms within 30 days. This means transfer them, or turn them in for destruction.

This is only one of the many facets of C-68 that sucks big time.

Remember the ultimate goal is to ELIMINATE all firearms from civilian hands, and this is to be done, one firearm at a time.

And to the original poster, I take offense to your referral of a "firearm" as a "weapon". The word weapon conjures up visions of pain and suffering and evil.
 
Griffoneur said:
There are TWO acceptable reasons to own restricted firearms in "Canada" and self defence is NOT one of them!

  1. Target Shooting
  2. Collection
To obtain collector status, you must request it from the CFO who in turn gives you a 30-45 minute telephone qualification exam.

If the day comes where you decide NOT to renew your range membership, you MUST have "collector" status otherwise the CFO can request you dispose of your restricted firearms within 30 days. This means transfer them, or turn them in for destruction.

This is only one of the many facets of C-68 that sucks big time.

Remember the ultimate goal is to ELIMINATE all firearms from civilian hands, and this is to be done, one firearm at a time.

And to the original poster, I take offense to your referral of a "firearm" as a "weapon". The word weapon conjures up visions of pain and suffering and evil.
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On a serious note, can i ask what the telephone interview is? what does it consist of? what specific knowledge do you have to have?
 
sewktbk said:
On a serious note, can i ask what the telephone interview is? what does it consist of? what specific knowledge do you have to have?
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The "exam" is pure H:S:

Anyone with even a basic knowledge of firearms could breeze thru it. General questions on firearms and then more specific as to which firearms you wish to "collect". This of course does not limit you to one particular type of firearm. Once you have been granted collector status, you can "collect" whatever your heart desires, except for the evil 12-X class prohibs, unless of course you are grandfathered for those evil cursed things.

Again, you must realize the end goal is to make it increasingly difficult for anyone to own firearms, so they create as many hoops as they can for us to jump thru.

Every time they think up a new bull$hit requirement, they manage to discourage a few more firearms owners thus reducing our numbers.

Just like the No.9 Anastasia Law, which is the most horrible piece of $hit legislation these retards have come up with in Quebec... the law No.9 requirements caused a good number of people (handgun owners) to say "SCREW IT" and they got rid of their restricted firearms.

Its a tried and true system, the more difficult you can make something, the more people will get discouraged. Their philosophy of ridding "one gun at a time" actually is working for them.

I know of many people who were contacted by the CFO moths after they let their gun club memberships lapse and were told to "renew membership or get rid of their restricted firearms". Of course the CFO will NEVER suggest applying for collector status as it defeats their objective of ridding guns from civilian hands.
 
Griffoneur,

you've been of great help, thanks a whole lot. i think i'll simply go ahead and apply for collector status right away, that way if the day comes i cant renew a range membership, i won't have them on my back. Then again, i bet its easier said than done.

Can i do that? register as both a target shooter and a collector? on the form it says to choose only one...
 
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