changing stocks on brazilian 1908 mauser

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i have a brazilian 7mm mauser, and the end of the stock has been bubba'd, therefore my question is can i change the stock out with a k98 stock, even though my stock is the short kind without a bayonett lug? here's a picture to better show you guys, sorry I dont have a pic of just the mauser, but its the top one in this group.
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I have no clue what my options are.
 
It will "work", but might require a bit of wood to be removed from the barrel channel, but please don't do that to an original K98 stock.

I was going to suggest that you look for another M1908 stock to restore it, but then noticed the bent down bolt handle, so what you have is not worth restoring. You could of course leave it as is, or sell it for a sporter (or use it yourself), but I see no sense in what you have suggested.
 
Andy said:
It will "work", but might require a bit of wood to be removed from the barrel channel, but please don't do that to an original K98 stock.

I was going to suggest that you look for another M1908 stock to restore it, but then noticed the bent down bolt handle, so what you have is not worth restoring. You could of course leave it as is, or sell it for a sporter (or use it yourself), but I see no sense in what you have suggested.
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if i find another 1908 stock with the cut-out for the bent down bolt, then of course it wont be an issue to change would it?
 
Hmm. You might have a sporterized M1935 (in 7x57 and 21.5" barrel) or a M1908/34 Short Rifle (which would be in 30/06 and a barrel length of 23.5"), in which case the bolt is as it should be. The pic is poor, but in it the handguard appears uncut, so all you need is a stock and hardware, which is extremely scarce for both those guns.
 
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If you find another stock, it won't have a cutout for the bent down bolt. And if you DO find another stock, you will be turning a $100+ milsuro stock into a $25 stock to put on a $100 rifle. It makes no sense.

Why not just buy a synthetic Mauser 98 stock or an already sportered Mauser 98 stock to put on the rifle?
 
200250126, your 1908 is now a sporter. There are lots of aftermarket stocks available for it at gunshows and at your local gunstore. If you can't find one there, contact one of the many dealers that help to sustain this site with their advertiseing or call one of the wholesale sports or Russels stores. There are lots to choose from, everything from poorly done milsurps to injection moulded plastic and custom units.

Why not just refinish the stock on it? They were very well made and usually fit well. I notice that you also have an extended recoil pad on the rifle. If you refinish the stock you can add a better pad, glass bed and probably bring out some very pretty wood. It will also give you something to do on long winter evenings when listening to the wife talking about the lawn growing gets boreing. bearhunter
 
thanks for the input but i have some more questions.

what is it when you guys mean "sporter"? is that the term for the non-full lenth forestock? also i want to replace the stock simply because the acutal original but-plate was cut right off. the reason the rubber end is on there because otherwise its a chopped piece of wood.

i am interested in bearhunters comments about getting a new stock, but again i don't really know what to ask for since. if i ask for a 1908 sporter replacement stock, they should know what im talking about?
 
"Sported" means that the rifle has been substantially modified from its original military form. In order for the rifle to be collectible, it would have to be returned fully to its original state - difficult to do because its not just the wood - the bolt handle, which is serialed to the gun had been bent.
It is suggested that your better off keeping the rifle in some configuration of sporter. Your chances of finding original replacement stock are lower than you may realize, and perhaps not worth the effort, given the end result.
 
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cosmic said:
"Sported" means that the rifle has been substantially modified from its original military form. In order for the rifle to be collectible, it would have to be returned fully to its original state - difficult to do because its not just the wood - the bolt handle, which is serialed to the gun had been bent.
It is suggested that your better off keeping the rifle in some configuration of sporter. Your chances of finding original replacement stock are lower than you may realize, and perhaps not worth the effort, given the end result.
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yeah im not interested in making it look original, the problem is that the stock has been cut, and is kind of awkwardly short (not to mention stupid looking) so my real goal is to replace the stock simply for practical reasons.
 
200250156, looking at that pic again, Andy is right. That isn't a 1908, but a1908/34, which was made on both Itajuba and old 1908 actions, both indentical to any standard length 98 mauser. I don't kno how much you want to spend on a stock, but you can pick up a Bell & Carlson for around $150, or other aftermarket stocks that go up from there. For most hunting situations, the B&C stock is fine.
Now, if you decide that you want to mount a scope as well, the cost goes up considerabley. The charger guides on the rear of the action need to be milled off and then mount holes need to be drilled and tapped.
Honestly, it would be cheaper and quicker to pick up another rifle off the equipment exchange and sell that rifle you have.
bearhunter
 
bearhunter said:
200250156, looking at that pic again, Andy is right. That isn't a 1908, but a1908/34, which was made on both Itajuba and old 1908 actions, both indentical to any standard length 98 mauser. I don't kno how much you want to spend on a stock, but you can pick up a Bell & Carlson for around $150, or other aftermarket stocks that go up from there. For most hunting situations, the B&C stock is fine.
Now, if you decide that you want to mount a scope as well, the cost goes up considerabley. The charger guides on the rear of the action need to be milled off and then mount holes need to be drilled and tapped.
Honestly, it would be cheaper and quicker to pick up another rifle off the equipment exchange and sell that rifle you have.
bearhunter
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well the rifle has sentimental value, and I would consider spending the $150 for a new stock. where can i pick up one of these BnC stocks if im interested, and how hard would it be to change for someone with no skill?
 
actually would this product from marstar work?
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Mauser 98 Stock with built-in scope rail. Made from matte black, glass-filled nylon. Scratchproof and weatherproof. Includes optional cheek rest for use with rifle scope. Features recoil pad, sling swivel studs, and built-in Weaver type scope mount with T-6 Aluminium barrel clamps. Made in the USA and comes with a lifetime warranty. Fits barrel diameter .950 to .990". Will NOT fit Large-Ring Swedish M38/M96 6.5x55 or Small-Ring Mausers (Spanish M1916 .308). Use bolt handle conversion kit part #ATI-MBH1800 with straight handle or 'wide arc' bolt handles such as on the Yugo M-48.
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i would like to keep it without a scope, but i'm considering my options.
 
It should fit just fine, but you might have to get the bolt handle altered to clear the scope. Wholesale Sports, Russels and a few of the guys that sponsor this site may also be able to help. You should advertise on the EE forum a WTB aftermarket 98 large ring, standard length action, wood or synthetic stock. I've picked up a few real beauties for under $100, includeing shipping.
Because these rifles are so darned dependable and accurate, if taken care of, many people upgrade the stocks on them from wood to synthetic. Then the stock is propped in a corner or wherever to gather dust. Many of these take off stocks were done between 20-60 years ago and the wood can be really beautiful as well as being as stable as a new synthetic, though maybe a bit heavier.
One that was picked up at a gunshow for $50 in Kamloops, was carved professionaly from a piece of AAA exhibition grade walnut. I modified the pistol grip to suit myself and put a Mod 1935 7x57,barreled action, that had been previously cut down, into it. It is a beautiful rifle and a pleasure to shoot and carry. bearhunter:)
 
Well - Its attached to the stock, and not the barrel. What are the chances of it holding zero, or even aligning to point of aim....
Better off buying a used wooden sporter stock. For that matter, its relatively easy to install a recoil pad on the existing stock, and wouldnt cost alot of money (40$). The original military stock should shoot well - they were generally very well bedded at the factory (ie pillars etc)
 
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