Changing Stocks on short shotguns

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I posted in shotgun forum but moved my post here to not ruffle feathers...


Can I get the 12.5" choked shotty in the 8.5" configuration (the really-really short stock)?

The 8.5 is just a bit too short for me. I would like the 12.5 inch choked barrel, so that once it gets around to bird season, I can put a regular 870 stock on it and use it. My 18 inch 870 is still a bit long in my Jeep. The 12.5" would be perfect.

I know its legal to use the 8.5" short stock configuration for hunting...I just want the best of both worlds and interchange the stocks as I deem fit.

Is there any problem doing this?

Thanks in advance
 
How is this not a legal question? He wants to know if he can put a pistol grip on 12.5" barreled shotgun, something that was thought to be illegal until now.

People started asking questions similar to his in this thread: http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=157439
For some reason this upset an awful lot of people. As a matter of fact some people got so pissy about the whole thing that, instead of answering any questions about the legality of this or that, they decided to get the thread locked. I pm'd the mod who locked it but he never responded.

So if this question can't be discussed in the Shotgun forum, and it's not suitable for the Legal forum, where does it go?

So the question remains, can you install a pistol grip on a 12.5" barrel (or any short barrel) or is this new ruling only applicable to the Dlask 8.5" guns?
 
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I don't think that there is an answer to the question. The interpretation that has been posted is specific to Dlask's guns. Until there is a ruling about putting a pistol grip on other shortguns, it might be better not to do so. Perhaps if someone is serious about this, a written request for a ruling should be made.
 
If you can get it verified with a comercially avavilable pistolgrip and a comercially available short barrel it should be fine......if it can't be verified in the short configuration then you might have some extra hassle.

Kind of funny how people have argued that the rulling is not a loop hole and that it is the law plain and simple...but then get disturbed when people ask questions regarding this plain and simple law.
 
What do you mean by verified? It would seem that there are two FRT numbers relating to Dlask's guns. If the gun doesn't match either of these, it can't be verified, and an application to have a new FRT number would have to be made. If the gun had a 12 1/2" barrel, it would not match the existing FRT numbers and only Dlask has made the shorter ones, AFAIK.
By the same token, if a person had a Rem 870 registered as non-restricted with a 12 1/2" barrel, the descriptors used for identification for registration purposes do not include stock type or oal.
But in the absence of a ruling that ANY non semi auto shotgun can be configured like a Dlask, with a commercial short barrel and a pistol grip, it might be an idea to be cautious. The first LEO to see such a gun is not likely going to be aware of the Dlask precedent.
 
By verified I was thinking you take the gun to a CFC verifier and verify that it is legal in the short configuration.......

There have been no changes in the law to allow the Dlask shorty.

What does it say on the Dlask certificate?

Non restricted, but does it mention the overall length?

Does it specify 8 1/2" or just less then 18"?
 
An FRT exists for the 12.5" Dlask barrel on the Rem870 receiver, I just requested a registration change to my 18.5" 870. I am however curious about the pistol grip usage on this gun, I will have to wait for my new registration (if it ever comes, girl on the phone said they may not re-issue a new paper!!!!).
 
I don't know that a verifier can verify that a firearm is legal or not. All they can do is try to match up the description of the firearm with a FRT entry.
 
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Kind of funny how people have argued that the rulling is not a loop hole and that it is the law plain and simple...but then get disturbed when people ask questions regarding this plain and simple law.
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Roger that! This whole thing is a mystery to me, but it sounds like the only gun that is allowed the pistol grip in non-restricted trim is the Dlask 8.5". Why? I don't know, they got an FRT#.

People are referencing the no modification thing, saying it's not a mod because it's factory, which makes sense, but using that same logic it would be illegal for me to take the factory stock off my 14" Norinco and put another manufacturers regular buttstock (ie. non-pistol grip) on it, which we all know is ridiculous.
 
When in doubt - call and ask.

I think we want to avoid having 1000 people who are not actually planning to own or change their gun calling and asking 'just to see', as that raises unwanted attention. But if you're seriously considering it, call and find out. Note the name of the person you spoke to, the date and time of the call.

If they say it's a go - it's a go. You can't rely on what you hear here.
 
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When in doubt - call and ask.

I think we want to avoid having 1000 people who are not actually planning to own or change their gun calling and asking 'just to see', as that raises unwanted attention. But if you're seriously considering it, call and find out. Note the name of the person you spoke to, the date and time of the call.

If they say it's a go - it's a go. You can't rely on what you hear here.
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Correct, but you also can't rely on what the CFC says. I'm not interested in their interpretation. I'm only interested in what law they are referencing in order to come to their conclusion.
 
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