Just stumbled across these yesterday, specifically the Charles Daly 101 series in single shot 12gauge....Incredibly cheap guns, and I know you typically get what you pay for, but as a hunting single shot (turkey, grouse, etc.) the price seems tough to beat coming in around $150. I know nothing about break actions, but they seem like less moving parts and therefore something that this cheap could still work well? Or I could be wayyyyy off lol. Does anybody use these guns? They work with Benelli choke threads as well from what the specs say.
Charles Daly Single Shot Break Action
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There's a few different types, some with hammers, some hammerless, pretty well all turkish made clones of each other.
I've only used the hammer version where the whole trigger guard slides back to unlock the hinge. It was the 20ga warrior brand Corwin brought in a few years ago with a 20" barrel.
For the pros, it's nice and light, folds up small, shoots the things i point at and aren't very expensive for what you get.
Cons, HEAVY hammer pullback, and since the trigger works off the same spring, heavy trigger! There are some ways to lighten it, but out of the box was pretty heavy. Being light to carry also makes it kick pretty hard for a 20ga, i don't know if i would want one in 12ga. The one i used had a hard plastic buttpad, but different models seem to vary. I also had the screw that held the sliding trigger guard in could walk itself out if you weren't paying attention. you couldn't really tighten it down or the slide wouldn't slide well, could probably have used some locktite.
All in all, if i were getting it is a truck gun for the occasional grouse, light extra pack gun for small game while carrying a rifle. Not something that going to see a lot of rounds or really be relied on or just for the novelty of it then it's an excellent choice just because of the cost.
If you're getting it as your main hunting shotgun, going to shoot it a ton or shoot heavy loads, i'd probably pass and get something a little higher up the cost scale.
I've only used the hammer version where the whole trigger guard slides back to unlock the hinge. It was the 20ga warrior brand Corwin brought in a few years ago with a 20" barrel.
For the pros, it's nice and light, folds up small, shoots the things i point at and aren't very expensive for what you get.
Cons, HEAVY hammer pullback, and since the trigger works off the same spring, heavy trigger! There are some ways to lighten it, but out of the box was pretty heavy. Being light to carry also makes it kick pretty hard for a 20ga, i don't know if i would want one in 12ga. The one i used had a hard plastic buttpad, but different models seem to vary. I also had the screw that held the sliding trigger guard in could walk itself out if you weren't paying attention. you couldn't really tighten it down or the slide wouldn't slide well, could probably have used some locktite.
All in all, if i were getting it is a truck gun for the occasional grouse, light extra pack gun for small game while carrying a rifle. Not something that going to see a lot of rounds or really be relied on or just for the novelty of it then it's an excellent choice just because of the cost.
If you're getting it as your main hunting shotgun, going to shoot it a ton or shoot heavy loads, i'd probably pass and get something a little higher up the cost scale.
Yea, this would be for turkey hunting, something which is going to be new for me. I have been looking at older cooey 84s as well. I really wanted the mossberg maverick field/security combo, but they are out of stock everywhere and a single shot break action seems pretty cool. I figure if I miss the first shot there aint much luck getting a second one off. I really dont want to spend a lot because in all honesty, I am not sure how much I will even like the sport. A friens of mine has all the calls and equipment, so I just need the camo and a gun.
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Buy the Cooey. It will be much better quality and more reliable than that new single...
Shooting turkey loads in a single shot will give you a good introduction to the concept of recoil. If you plan to try club sports as well as hunting, you are better off getting a pump gun which is heavier and more functional. Yes, there are decent Turkish pump guns available. Buy that Axis yet?
Only downside to the cooey is usually fixed chokes, otherwise i would agree.
I'd agree here, a heavier pump/semi with a better recoil pad would be much easier on the shoulder, but it can be done with the single shot. Check out the EE and you can likely find something decent.
The Hunting Public have an episode where they do just what you're thinking as part of their walmart challenge with a turkish single shot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=169pST39BdQ
If that link doesn't work the title to the video to search for is WALMART Turkey Hunting Challenge - How Much Does it Cost To Start?
Thats what I was thinking...
Okay, I will check those out too, thank you!
I have shot clays with a Benelli Nova on multiple occasions, tons of fun! I just bought myself a Mossberg Maverick 88 last week, not realizing the one I chose does not have any threads in the barrel to add chokes, otherwise I would be using that and not even thinking twice. Funny what you think of after you buy a gun and your friends who are long time hunters get you going about joining them on a turkey hunt, but your gun has no ability to accept chokes lol
As for that axis, I wasn't really looking for a bolt gun since that was going to be for deer later on. It was just a deal for the weekend at cabela's, and it had me wondering how they stack up. I never bought it.
I have watched that! I was wondering what kind of gun that was. A turkish single shot, as in the Charles Daly?
I wanted to hunt with steel shot, that way I could still eat it (love me some turkey breasts!)....Will the Cooey work for that?
Ah well - People generally shoot turkeys with lead shot, which a full choke gun is perfect for. If you persist with steel shot your open choked Maverick will do the job. Suggest you talk to your hunting buddies about the preferred gear, these forums will just confound you.
I was under the impression that steel shot was for eating. Youre right though, I better ask my turkey buddy what loads he is using instead of assuming.
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No need to shoot steel. You aren't going to get lead poisoning from eating a bird shot with lead, especially Turkey which you shoot standing not flying and you shoot the bird in the head and neck with a tightly choked gun. Steel shot came into use to prevent lead poisoning in birds of prey and other predators from ingesting wounded waterfowl shot with lead contrary to the story waterfowlers were given about waterfowl dying from ingesting spent lead pellets in shallow waters. Got that direct from a CWS source. It is why we are seeing a huge increse nowadays in bird of prey numbers especially Bald Eagles according to my source.
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I don't know if it was specifically a charles daly branded single shot in the video, but definitely one of the similar turkish singles.
If you already have the maverick 88, for the $200 you'd spend on the single shot you could either just get a second hand mossberg 500 barrel with chokes (they interchange with the maverick 88) and use it.
The other option would be to have a gunsmith thread your barrel for chokes.
In either case you'd be all set with your maverick.
Unless you just want another shotgun, in which case, go for it! Just pick one with a nicer looking buttpad, whether it's yildiz, charles daly, hatsan, whatever, they're pretty well all the same shotgun.
When I worked at a gun counter shortly a lot of the exterior of the hammer models with the trigger guard that opened the action (not sure what this is called) came back for popping open after firing, not closing or just generally not working in every imaginable way. The beretta single shot clones with the lever in front of the trigger guard seem much sturdier in my limited experience.
Buying a choked mossberg barrel on the e.e is probably the best solution
Buying a choked mossberg barrel on the e.e is probably the best solution
Ahhh okay, thank you! Honestly, I just registered for my hunting course, my buddies and brother have convinced me to go turkey hunting, and the rest has just been kinda my own browsing and assumptions from some internet searching and youtube watching...I just assumed lead is no good to eat, but this makes sense.
Only problem with my maverick is that it is the 7+1 capacity magazine tube, and mossberg does not make a barrel for threaded chokes for that mag tube (was looking for the 28" sporting barrel). So I kinda shot myself in the foot going for the extra mag capacity when ordering between the 2 "security" models of the 88.
See above...I don't think Mossberg has produced a barrel for my mag tube length in years, as I have been searching. And the price of a barrel and tube together almost make it worth it to buy another gun.
Stevens 301 is a decent cheap single. They make a turkey version as well. They take choke tubes. Theyre light but have decent stock dimensions which helps with recoil
Turkey hunting does not require heavy magnum loads.
Turkey hunting does not require heavy magnum loads.
Sadly barrels for the Maverick 88 cost very close to what the whole gun cost. Even used they still seem to go for $150+. I have seen a few for ~$100, but they all sold within minutes of being posted at that sort of price... Although that doesn't look to be an option anyways due to the magazine tube on the one you have.
Or he could just sell what he has and buy a Mossberg with the threaded 28" barrel. At the end of the day it would probably be cheaper than getting the barrel threaded, and there are advantages to the longer barrel. Unless of course the OP had a specific reason for why he went with the short barrel out the gate?
Or he could just sell what he has and buy a Mossberg with the threaded 28" barrel. At the end of the day it would probably be cheaper than getting the barrel threaded, and there are advantages to the longer barrel. Unless of course the OP had a specific reason for why he went with the short barrel out the gate?
I will take a look at that as well.
I also don't know of any local gunsmiths who are GOOD since I am new to all of this. I would imagine its like picking a mechanic for your car- there are mechanics, and then there are GOOD mechanics.
I went with the shorter barrel just for fun defensive close range shooting. To be honest, hunting was not the goal for getting into shooting...but my brother, grandfather, and a few friends all do it, so I am kinda getting sucked in ahaha. I don't mind adding to the safe...In the meantime, if the maverick doesn't work, I could always borrow someone's gun
Many may scuff but a cylinder bore can work quite well with federal premium flight control wads. I used a 18.5" cylinder barrel with said ammo and it worked well for a tom and a jake at 27 and 19 yards iirc. Just under 30 and 20 yards anyway. Pattern your gun and work within its limits. You maybe surprised. Just remember to use a plug when hunting
