Cheap AR?

mg4201 said:
As I said before NEA dug their own hole. for heavens sake they let a rifle with an out of spec BCG out when they knew for a fact it is was going to be reviewd on CGN. Are you NEA's biggest fan or what?
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If you're referring to mine, I specifically insisted that the rifle have whatever rack parts were available. The BCG was just put in, test fired x8, and sent. The rifle was not prepped for the review, so it got no extra checks or QC applied to it than anything else.

In any case I don't think the QC programs of any manufacturers I can think of would test the hardness of the firing pin retaining pin.

If anyone can think of an AR builder with a program in place that would catch that, if they could forward that info to me that would be useful.
 
anyone who gives NEA a good review is a shill misanthropist.... didn't you get the memo?

real world experience highly overrated, especially with such well practiced armchair reviews
 
When mil-spec isn't an option but a delicate art...
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misanthropist said:
If you're referring to mine, I specifically insisted that the rifle have whatever rack parts were available. The BCG was just put in, test fired x8, and sent. The rifle was not prepped for the review, so it got no extra checks or QC applied to it than anything else.

In any case I don't think the QC programs of any manufacturers I can think of would test the hardness of the firing pin retaining pin.

If anyone can think of an AR builder with a program in place that would catch that, if they could forward that info to me that would be useful.
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I doubt very much that your issue is a soft firing pin retainer. All that part has to do is stop the firing pin from falling out of the BCG. for it to get bent up like that the hole would have to be in the wrong place. When I was in the army I handled a large number of c-7's while preparing for the units Annual Technical Inspection, In all the rifles that I had apart, I never saw a retaining pin like that.
 
easysauce said:
anyone who gives NEA a good review is a shill misanthropist.... didn't you get the memo?

real world experience highly overrated, especially with such well practiced armchair reviews
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Yes you are right I have no experience with AR's. All those C-7's I worked with in the CF clearly nothing to do with AR's. :D
 
FFS, OP wanted to know good cheap reliable NEA. Newer model NEA is the ticket. There's even a 14.5 NEA on the EE for 900. If I didn't already have 2 NEA's I'd get this one.
 
nza said:
FFS, OP wanted to know good cheap reliable NEA. Newer model NEA is the ticket. There's even a 14.5 NEA on the EE for 900. If I didn't already have 2 NEA's I'd get this one.
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I'd agree with the cheap comment. Reliability and fit and finish quality is obviously spotty at best.
 
2bad4u2 said:
I'd agree with the cheap comment. Reliability and fit and finish quality is obviously spotty at best.
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My rifles aren't going into America's next top model, so even if "fit and finish" is spotty - which I haven't noticed in my two pdws, I wouldn't care - its better than the two norc m4's I've had. Hell, even my stag looks like a well-used thai whore in hong kong during Navy R&R
WRT to reliability, I'll admit to a a few hiccups at the very beginning (out of spec BCG, and weak metallurgy in the trigger group) on my first gun, but since then, and with thousands of rounds in both - nary a hiccup that isn't mag-related. The newest of my PDWs have had no issues from the beginning.

I think it is the job of the retailer to ensure that anything they sell is A.) Safe; B.) Reliable; C.)Consistent; D.) Serviceable state. And so far, all of the NEA dealers I've dealt with have been good to go in ensuring that this is the case. Same with Norc retailers. Same with Stag.

As long as the OP purchases a gun through a reputable retailer - there's going to be no problems. - At least none that can't be managed easily.
 
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