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I am looking at a few used semi-auto 12 guages right now, all for around 300-350$. So far, I have found a Winchester 140 (wood), a Baikal Mp-153(wood) and a Charles Daly Field Hunter(syn. camo). I will be mostly using it for skeet shooting with light 2 3/4" loads. Looking for something relaible and easy to clean. Any suggestions?
 
I am looking at a few used semi-auto 12 guages right now, all for around 300-350$. So far, I have found a Winchester 140 (wood), a Baikal Mp-153(wood) and a Charles Daly Field Hunter(syn. camo). I will be mostly using it for skeet shooting with light 2 3/4" loads. Looking for something reliable and easy to clean. Any suggestions?

I would avoid the Winchester and the Charles Daly.

The Baikal seems to have a decent reputation and parts if required should be available.

My preference would be a Remington 1100. You should be able to find a used one in your price range or pretty close. The 1100 has been around a LONG time and is a proven design.
 
I am looking at a few used semi-auto 12 guages right now, all for around 300-350$. So far, I have found a Winchester 140 (wood), a Baikal Mp-153(wood) and a Charles Daly Field Hunter(syn. camo). I will be mostly using it for skeet shooting with light 2 3/4" loads. Looking for something relaible and easy to clean. Any suggestions?

I would avoid the Winchester.The Charles Daly Field Hunter I have heard good reports on and bad reports.Seems if you get a good one they are great but if you get a bad one they are not good.

Have no knowledge of the Baikal so I cannot comment on them.
 
Nothing points like a Remington 1100. If Skeet is your main purpose an 1100 fitted with a 26" barrel would be the ticket. They are reliable and easy to keep running.

regards, Darryl


Agreed - mine is old as can be and works great. I basically abuse it and it hardly gets cleaned but never fails to perform.
 
I like my baikal but I feel that for a dedicated skeet/range gun it's far from ideal. Too heavy, and if you only plan on shooting 2 3/4" shells, the 3.5" chamber is silly. It is very easy to clean though. Another vote for the remington.
 
Nothing beats a browning auto-5. The remington 1100 is sloppily made with stamped parts. Every part on the a-5 is milled steel. When set up it will cycle every time....the 1100 not so much.
 
If you are looking for a field gun than I would go with the Baikal. I have a Rem. version (samething) and am happy with it. It is the best of the 3 IMHO and for under $400 it is priced right.
 
How about a h & r excell auto. I bought mine in camo new from bass pro for less then $300 and has yet to fail me in any way. Google that and you won't find anyone that says anything negative about them. They just work, nothing fancy.
 
I am leanbing towards either the Winchester or Baikal at this point. The Winchester is a bit cheaper and in a bit better condition, but it only comes with 1 choke. However, I think my Mossberg accuchokes are interchangeable with the winchokes. The winchester has a 28" barrel. The Baikal is still in really good condition and comes with 4 chokes, but is 50$ more than the Winchester. The Baikal has a 24" barrel. Since I dont want to buy aftermarket barrels for them, which barrel length, 24" or 28" would be better suited to skeet shooting?
 
Look for a Winchester Super X-1, probably one of the best semi-autos of all time. But nobody wants them now with their fixed chokes and 2-3/4" chambers. And they're too heavy for upland hunting. But they would make an outstanding clays gun.
 
I'd go with a Remington 1100; 1187 basically the same gun with a stainless mag tube. More skeet records have been set with an 1100 than any other gun. Sure they are built a little "loose" but that is what keeps them working. Parts (not that you will need them) are easily available.

The only problems I have seen that prohibit them from working consistently is when they are incredibly dirty (A season in the goose blind) or have shot a lot of slugs. The slugs leave lead in the barrel that ends up plugging the gas ports. I ream of the gas ports with the correct # drill will solve the problem.
Good luck with ever you choose!
 
Nothing points like a Remington 1100. If Skeet is your main purpose an 1100 fitted with a 26" barrel would be the ticket. They are reliable and easy to keep running.

regards, Darryl

Another vote there :) - if you keep a careful eye out ;), you can find ones on the E & E every now-and-then with just the one barrel - but also with a low :D, hard-to-resist price! :p
 
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