Cheap semi auto 22 - looking for advice

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So I'm sick of my single shot 22's. So while waiting for work on my truck to get done, I moseyed on over to the gun section in Canadian tire.

On the rack that I was looking at they had a Tula wildcat (looks like a toz 99), savage 64, and a mossberg blaze

All around the same price, what would be the best rifle of the three?

From just handling them, the mossberg is light af, but it feels like a toy, the savage synthetic stock feels solid and heavy duty, but the sights are terrible, the Tula is good looking and wicked sights, but I'd probably never find parts if I need them
 
BlackPowderBurner said:
If you're going to scope it I'd take the Savage, if not go for the TOZ 99 (do you really expect to break parts on a .22?). Let us know if you get one :)
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I probably wouldn't break it but the rear sight on the Tula feels like plastic, don't know for sure. The twirly sight adjustment is pretty cool. I don't think I'd scope it. Just for fun at the range and popping grouse all I'm going to use it for
 
James1873 said:
I think the Tula is $229, the savage was $205, and the mossberg I think $199. They had a plinkster there but it was some kind of weird pink camo..... no thanks lol
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I bought my savage 64 from cabelas with scope, for 199,- free shipping.217,- tax in.
probably not the best one, but reasonably cheap, to start with.
 
Love my Savage 64f

It has seen a lot of rounds. Not picky. And cleaned properly once in a while, they work flawlessly. A bit of a "pain" to dissasemble, but nothing too bad.
 
James1873 said:
I probably wouldn't break it but the rear sight on the Tula feels like plastic, don't know for sure. The twirly sight adjustment is pretty cool. I don't think I'd scope it. Just for fun at the range and popping grouse all I'm going to use it for
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I have the Tula TOZ 99 for some time. It's absolutely fantastic semi-auto carbine for the price! Super deal! Very, very accurate. Beats hands down the 10/22.
The only thing is that you have to watch a video how to disassemble it for cleaning. It's a bit tricky but when you learn then it's not a problem. Also there is no problem with scoping it. See that video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBXeXNm4s-s.
The rear sight on the TOZ 99 is NOT PLASTIC, IT'S GOOD RUSSIAN STEEL!
The only plastic parts are the magazines and the magazine insert. But plastic is very strong. Hard to break.
Don't think too long. Just buy it!
 
I wouldn't buy any of the three to be honest, but another cheapy semi worth considering is the Marlin 795. Great gun, but the sights are likely going to be crappy. You could put a low magnification scope on it..?

I'm sure you've considered a bolt-action repeater if by "single shot" you're literally referring to a single shot. I like those too, but not for long. :) A 5 or 10-rounder in my CZ or BRNO is all I need to keep a smile on my face.
 
TOZ 99 hands down!! accuracy is awesome, amazing furniture with schnabel forearm, scoping is easy. Only drawback is you must use standard velocity ammo. I use Aguila and CCI. sweet gun.
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My synthetic stocked Marlin Model 60 ran me less than $150USD when I bought it a few years back, that price included a 4X Chinese made scope. I'll suggest a Marlin Model 60 to anyone interested in a semiauto 22. Yes it does need a few rounds to break it in. But that is a good reason to go shooting.
 
I had the 64f for about 5 years. I just sold it. It was an awesome .22 and ate everything I could feed it. I'm not sure the round count but I can recall five 500ish round bricks that I know went through it and there was a bunch of odd boxes it ate in between. My friends that I most commonly shoot rimfire with have 1 remington 597, 3 ruger 10-22s, 1 old stevens that is identical to the savage 64 except it has a wood stock, and 3 other 64f's. The stevens is the least picky of all. I can't remember ever seeing it have a malfunction actually. However it is not very accurate and is worn in almost to the point of rattling inside. My 64f was 2nd for reliability. Of the thousands of rounds I've put through it I only had a handful of malfunctions with could almost all be blamed on the mags(more on that later). I fed mine everything under the sun as far as .22lr goes. The 2 10-22, one of the other 64fs and 597 all took up places behind in reliability. The other two 64fs were garbage and had nothing but problems. My 64fs were also ahead of the rest in accuracy closely followed by the 597 and then the 10-22s. The 64f action is a solid design and savage makes very nice rimfire barrels. However with what we experienced and heard from others the quality control can be spotty on the newer ones so you might get a lemon. The magazines are also utter garbage and the reason I finally sold mine. I wore out 3 magazines completely and had 2 more close to being unusable when I sold it. I put a lot of rounds through each of those mags but they still died long before the ones in the other brand rifles at similar round counts. The rear ofd the feed lips would dent in where the rim of the cartridges would hit it when lifting to the top position and the dent would snag the rim of the other cartridges when they were being fed. This caused them to tilt up at the front and jam.

That was my experience but yours may vary. If the savage 64 had better mags available I would pick it over a 10-22 any day. For a low volume shooter it would be a non issue and I'd say get that one as long as you handle it first and the QC looks ok.
 
GLS_1956 said:
My synthetic stocked Marlin Model 60 ran me less than $150USD when I bought it a few years back, that price included a 4X Chinese made scope. I'll suggest a Marlin Model 60 to anyone interested in a semiauto 22. Yes it does need a few rounds to break it in. But that is a good reason to go shooting.
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I second (or third) the Marlin 60. I've owned 3 now, and they worked like a champ. Ate everything, and were just hassle free. I am going to get another one before next summer, but I'm still smarting from buying 4 guns this month. I saw one with a Laminate stock at Can Tire for $269 I think. Way better than the 3 you mentioned. JMHO
 
Marlin 795 or 60
Inexpensive, reliable and very accurate. Eats most ammo like a hog.
Not a lot of aftermarket if you decide to bubba up the rifle.
25 round magazines are available for plinking.
 
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