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In my opinion they will both get the job done, both relatively flat shooting accurate catridges. But the .308 might be slightly cheaper to feed and you can get milsurp ammo for plinking.
Oh yeah and the 308 is available in a short action.
 
You cannot go wrong with either. The deciding factor may be:

Does your dad have a lot of .270 shells around waiting to be used?:D

If so, I know what I would choose;)


270 and 308 are both capable of taking big ungulates and blackbears when you do your part... I would want something larger if griz is on the menu, and probably in a different rifle too. Other than that your golden with your choice.:cool:
 
Yeah, I am still debating with myself. It may be a coin flip in the end, or whichever is in stock and I can get the quickest. I do like plinking, so the 308 may be a better choice. I dunno....
 
evster said:
The more I think about it the more I lean towards .308. I have always wanted a 308 too, and know many people who love them.
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And you know what the problem is don't you?....you've listed all great calibers, so you're not making it easy on yourself. You mentioned that you're NOT recoil sensitive, in that case then why not go with the '06 or the .270. Both are fine calibers, lots of factory ammo, with of course the '06 having the edge on choices. The .270 is a nice flat shooting gun, basically an '06 necked down. You'll be very happy with the Stevens 200 as you probably will with the other guns mentioned. I favour the Stevens 200 because I do know two people that own them, (namely my daughter and son-in-law). It is a very accurate OOTB gun. I would be very careful in feeding mil-surplus ammo through your hunting rifle (I certainly wouldn't do it). There can be dimensional differences which have to do with feeding mil-surplus ammo through automatic fire weapons. I'm not an expert on the subject but I did read an article on this concerning both the .308 and .223 calibers.
 
Will a .270 or .30-06 give me more punch at longer ranges (300-400 yards) than a .308? Because I can't see myself ever attempting a shot on an animal at much more than 300 yards.
 
You ask why the 308 over the 270.

Well, with the 308 you have more hitting power through out the ranges.(150gr bullet is 870ft/lbs for the 270 and 1048ft/lbs for the 308, without doing the math that is about 15% more hitting power at 400 yds for the 308).

The 308 gets you a short action rifle that is always nicer to handle and a tighter action.

The 308 will give you more ammo options including cheap surplus ammo for plinking .

If down the road you want to try reloading or if you have a friend that does reload your options for the 308 are next to endless from mild loads for coyotes to hard hitting ground pounding moose loads.

Go for the 308 and get good with your rifle/scope combo.
No one will question your decision when the meat is on the table!:dancingbanana:
 
Well, with the 308 you have more hitting power through out the ranges.(150gr bullet is 870ft/lbs for the 270 and 1048ft/lbs for the 308, without doing the math that is about 15% more hitting power at 400 yds for the 308).
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Hmmm...I'm presently looking at a Winchester factory ammo product guide and those numbers you quote are actually backwards, in favour of the .270. Nothing against the .308, but:

.270 Winchester Super-X 150 gr. Power Point = 1175 ft/lbs @ 400 yds.
.308 Winchester Super-X 150 gr. Power Point = 888 ft/lbs @ 400 yds.

.270 Winchester Supreme 150 gr. Power Point+ = 1276 ft/lbs @ 400 yds.
.308 Winchester Supreme 150 gr. Power Point+ = 938 ft/lbs @ 400 yds.
 
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.270 Winchester Super-X 150 gr. Power Point = 1175 ft/lbs @ 400 yds.
.308 Winchester Super-X 150 gr. Power Point = 888 ft/lbs @ 400 yds.

.270 Winchester Supreme 150 gr. Power Point+ = 1276 ft/lbs @ 400 yds.
.308 Winchester Supreme 150 gr. Power Point+ = 938 ft/lbs @ 400 yds.
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Well maybe someone has things backwards, but here is the source that I am quoting.

Guns & Ammo: http://www.gunsandammomag.com/ballistics/?url=%2Fballistics%2F308_winchester.html&x=10&y=5

Shooting Times: http://www.shootingtimes.com/ballistics/?url=%2Fballistics%2F308_winchester.html&x=6&y=8
 
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To continue the discussion...

I do have a friend that reloads so he could show me around and possibly let me use his equipment until I can buy my own. But my questions is, how much $$ would I have to expect to spend in powder/bullets/brass find a combo that will work good enough for deer hunting (300 yards max)? After that I would probablly try new products as I get more cash. Just curious...
 
I have hunted deer with both 308 and 270, both shoot nice and flat and very accurate at long distances. Both easiely take out deer, though with moose, I'd lean more toward the 308. I could be wrong but I think you can only get up to 150g with the 270 and with the 308 you can get 180g. I also believe that with the 308 the choice of Mfg and types of bullets are like a 30-06, almost endless, more than you would find for the 270. In either case both calibers are a great choice from what I have experienced.
Just my 2 cents.....

Cheers!
 
heavyBullet said:
I have hunted deer with both 308 and 270, both shoot nice and flat and very accurate at long distances. Both easiely take out deer, though with moose, I'd lean more toward the 308. I could be wrong but I think you can only get up to 150g with the 270 and with the 308 you can get 180g. I also believe that with the 308 the choice of Mfg and types of bullets are like a 30-06, almost endless, more than you would find for the 270. In either case both calibers are a great choice from what I have experienced.
Just my 2 cents.....

Cheers!
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I have not shot moose with a 270, or in 150 grain for that matter. However, My father has shot at least 15 moose with a BLR model 81' (browning lever action) in .308.

He uses 150 gr bullets in the 308 for moose hunting. They do the job. I have personally witnessed it. Like anything else, it comes down to proper shot placement. A 180 grain bullet will do the job as well.

I would think that the .270 is capable of putting down moose with a 150gr bullet.



Evster,

A .308 is basically a smaller cartridge (in terms of length) than the 30-06. The 30-06 uses more powder and the 308 uses less. If you are choosing between these two (308 and 30-06) ask yourself if you want a short action or a long action. The difference is minimal.


If you dont mind looking around for ammo, or need a great excuse to get into reloading :cool: ;) grab a 7mm-08:D .:dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:

It will do everything a 308,30-06, and 270 will with a minimum amount of recoil. I own a savage 30-06 and since I bought the 7mm-08, the savage 06 is pretty much a wall hanger. (My first deer/meat gun)
I wouldn't shy away from shooting a moose/elk with my 7mm-08. It has a max rating of 175gr bullet, but if you cant drop a moose/elk with 175gr, I wouldnt blame the bullet weight or the rifle.:p

Im sure we have given you many scenerios, now its time to make the choice. Best of luck to ya!
 
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I started to sway from it, but now I am back to the 308 because I like the idea of the short action and the bullet selection.

What kind of accuracy should I be able to expect with this gun with handloads?
 
Excellent accuracy. Like most stevens 200's, you should get 1 MOA at a hundred yards. (I need to get some paper targets up on here.)

200yds shouldnt be much different either. At 300 they can hold their own as well if you do your part.

A general rule of thumb I follow with my rifles, is sighting it in for 2inches high at 100, making them damn near dead on at 200, which makes them 6-8 inches high at 3 hundy.

deer/moose at 300yards? Put the crosshairs at the top of the back over the kill zone.

Not every shot is going to be a broadside shot, so you must take that into account as well.
 
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Hello there. Have you tried any handloads for your Remington? The 30-06 is easy to handload for. I have handloaded many different '06 loads from Reminton 150 grain 30-30 slugs to the Barnes original 250 grain whomper softpoint. After all there has been 100 years of load developement for that puppy. Reduced loads with the '06 tame the recoil alot. There are also reduced recoil factory offerings that are designed for hunting applications. A familiar quote from Mr. Rifleman Townsend Whelen "The 30-06 is never a mistake". Regards
 
I think when I come to buying, the calibre may be swayed based on what is in stock at the time. I may get a 270, 308, or 30-06. Just depends on what is available. The reason I want to sell mine is just because I want a change, you know how it is. Ideally I would have both of em, but being the poor student that I am thats not going to happen. Maybe someone else will get more use out of my 740 then I have. I am hoping to get it posted on EE sometime this week.
 
evster said:
I started to sway from it, but now I am back to the 308 because I like the idea of the short action and the bullet selection.

What kind of accuracy should I be able to expect with this gun with handloads?
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I've never used hand loads in mine, but use Winchester ballistic tips in my Ruger 308, and its deadly accurate. Would not reccomend that bullet in a real think bush though.

cheers!!
 
Folks is always interested in buying new. Why??????:confused: Betcha you could get a very nice used probably right here on gunnutz????? at a Similiar cost. I'd look anyhow just to be sure. 308 win is the smart mans 06:rolleyes:
 
horshur said:
Folks is always interested in buying new. Why??????:confused: Betcha you could get a very nice used probably right here on gunnutz????? at a Similiar cost. I'd look anyhow just to be sure. 308 win is the smart mans 06:rolleyes:
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Good point...

Unless abused, rifles dont' really wear out, 99% of the time!:)
 
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