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I had these handed down to me a few years ago. Just wonder if you guys could tell me more about them then I already know. The peace maker has serial number 36### and the 1911 has serial number 187###. Where can i get original grips, what are they worth, etc. They both function flawlessly and I have shot both. And if anybody is wondering, they are properly registered, etc. The peace maker is 45LC and the 1911 is 45ACP. Bores are not mint but not bad either for their age. I am almost certain the peace maker had a re-blue job many years ago.
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sharp shooter said:
Would that add value? I would like to restore these to original if its cost effective.
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If they are safe and current shooters , you may be wise just to keep them cleaned and oiled . Some guns have had their collector value destroyed by having restorations done on them.....it looks like you have a couple of fine family heirlooms as they are......just my two cents worth....take care..
 
Since the 1911 is nickel plated it's quite possible that the grips on it are original. You'd need to do some research into that. I also suspect that because of the finish and grips that it was a special gun that was given to someone in the past as a commemorative award or gift for some event. It's likely that it was not used in action because of the fancy finishing.

With any antique there's something called "patina". It takes quite a lot of damage before an antique is in bad enough condition that it's value and price will rise from a restoration. And generally that damage has to be caused by abuse and not natural and normal wear and tear. And clearly that 1911 has only seen the finest of care. So my advice, and I'm sure many will echo this, is LEAVE IT ALONE! Simply maintain the proper and respectful normal cleaning and oiling that is done to any firearm and that is the best you can do. I'm assuming here that the grip scales are actually cast metal and not some cheezy later day plastic junk. There may also be markings, in fact it's likely there are markings on the insides of the grips to indicate the maker. Or if original to the gun perhaps even stamped with the serial. That sort of info could aid in identifying the source or at least how old the scales are and if they could be original to the gun.

If the Colt has been re-blued then it will have lost a lot of collector appeal and will have the price lowered consistent with that. But that doesn't mean it's now a low cost gun. It's STILL a Colt which means it's worth a pretty penny and easily well up over $1000. Final pricing will depend on the age of the gun based on the serial.

The grips on the Colt are certainly not original. Likely the originals would be the old molded resin grips that have the Colt name in the material.

If you opt for wood grips then some fitting would be required as the grips on these old guns were shaped to suit the castings of the frame parts. And on the originals the grips were one piece affairs that required the backstrap portion of the grip frame to be removed to allow fitting the wood grips.
 
You should post more detailed pictures of the SA, serial numbers and all dates, Rampant Colt, markings on barrel etc.
I think hammer has been replaced and barrel cut down. Front sight looks odd too. What you have (if it's really a Colt , can't be sure on these pics) is a blackpowder frame so avoid shooting modern ammo in it.
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The grips on the Colt are certainly not original. Likely the originals would be the old molded resin grips that have the Colt name in the material.

If you opt for wood grips then some fitting would be required as the grips on these old guns were shaped to suit the castings of the frame parts. And on the originals the grips were one piece affairs that required the backstrap portion of the grip frame to be removed to allow fitting the wood grips.
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If the OP is correct with the serial number, I think this particular gun came with a one piece wood grips. One way to find out is to check if the bottom of the backstrap has a hole for the grip pin. Of course it could also have been added afterwards.
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okcorral1881 said:
You should post more detailed pictures of the SA, serial numbers and all dates, Rampant Colt, markings on barrel etc.
I think hammer has been replaced and barrel cut down. Front sight looks odd too. What you have (if it's really a Colt , can't be sure on these pics) is a blackpowder frame so avoid shooting modern ammo in it.
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Serial numbers are correct. Its in the 36,000 range, which makes it the oldest I've seen, manufactured in 1875. The barrel is correct and so is the hammer. I will take a few more detailed pics. All serial numbers match. I have only shot Ten X ammo out of it. it clicks crisply all four times.
 
Given the DOB on the SAA it would certainly explain the use of the black powder frame and cylinder pin retention screw instead of the later sprung pin.

And yeah, either black powder loads or cowboy action stuff only.

The sort of good news is that since it was pretty obviously re-blued at some point that the collectors won't give you a rough time for shooting it. The bad news is that you won't be able to sell it and put your kid's through college with the money... :D

As I suggested if it's a good shooter with a decent lockup it's still worth over a $G. If in great shooting condition with no issues then likely somewhere around $1500'ish from what I've seen around.
 
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