**Checked out a Baikal SxS - ***Pics added***

I am still tempted for the price to try a .45-70. A few hundred bucks will do a lot of clean up and fine tuning, and hey, I haven't seen even a beat up old
.450/400 for less than.........well too many thousands of dollars for me for me.

This might prove to be a nice way to get a double to play with. Much of the improvements that may be needed I can do myself.

1899 you are right........the sights look very crude. That can be fixed though and it is probably as close as I am going to get to a nice double in .470 Nitro.
Well unless I win the lottery that is. :D
 
Guys, in a double rifle, if you mount a scope, will both barrels be sighted to one crosshair? or is there some mental compensation?

how does it work?
 
With this gun one barrel is fixed so you would sight the scope to that barrel, then you would attemp to regulate the other barrel by the adjustable jack screws, hopefully lining it up with where the other barrel is at what ever fixed distance you are sighting it in for, and you would have to use the same bullet and load that you used to sight it in.
 
The little paper certificate I saw in a Baikal S x S 30-06 box said the nice gents at the factory in the town of Plovdiv at " HBC Komepc" or NVS Commerce (Izmash) as it's known in Europe regulated the barrels to shoot within 100mm ( 4") of one another and to be within 30mm ( about 1-1/4") of point of aim, with 10.9 gram ( 168 gr. ) ammunition. Not bad. Some problems initially with the rear sight dovetail base being a little on the loose side, but nothing major. Yes, they are stiff (when new) and somewhat crudely finished, but as with most Baikals ... strong ! May get the chance to shoot one shortly.
 
I am starting to think the 45-70 is never going to come out, I emailed Baikal to ask when we can expect it, here is the response : For now omly ARTEMIDA .30-06 Sprg is available. Exelent side-by-side rifle by the way. Caliber .45-70 Govt will come maybe in 6 months.

Regards
Vasil
BAIKAL Canada
 
Some interesting info about the sxs rifle:

- Canada was the first country that received these rifles. We got them before the US were they will be sold as Remington SPR 22 (The SPARTAN name has been shelved). Aparently we received these rifles even before they reached the gunshops in Russia !!!!

- For the time being the factory is only producing them in 30.06 cal. Later on there will be a 308 and a 45-70. The 45-70 gov. is now undergoing tests and the mandatory certifications as per Russian regulations. There will be some differences from the 30.06 version. The sling swivel locations will be changed for example.

- The majority of the production will be the 45-70 version. Apparently The Baikal factory has a swollen order book for these rifles from around the world. After all it is the least expensive sxs rifle in production today.


BTW Ellwood Epps in Ontario is selling them for $ 1199.-
 
beretta boy said:
regulated the barrels to shoot within 100mm ( 4") of one another and to be within 30mm ( about 1-1/4") of point of aim, with 10.9 gram ( 168 gr. ) ammunition. QUOTE]


Wow, a factory statement saying what it is regulated for and the group size and point of impact at 100 yards.

A 4" group from a $1200 double at 100 yards. That is prety dam impressive.

I think I will have to get one of these things.
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How hot is the Alaskan?
More to the point, if the receiver is up to 30-06 factory loads would it be up to 45-70 loads for a Marlin?
Certainly the 30-06 is loaded pretty warm out of the factory.
And 168gn isn't real heavy for bullet weight.
Wouldn't you want to exploit 200gn or even 220gn bullets since the optimum range is 100yds? :confused:
 
Mabey building and regulating the rifle for 168g is an attempt to get a mid weight load that will work. This gives room for the experementation of lighter and heaver bullets.


It could also be that that particular gun is set up for 168g because that is what they could get to work. The next one could have a slip of paper stating that it is set up for 180g. Who knows?

I have sent Baikal a few e-mails asking about the regulation of thier rifles but have not got any response yet.


BTW the Blaser double in 30-06 that I looked at a few years ago was set up for 165g. That rifle uses a set of shims made in different in thickness that are added or removed to regulate the rifle for your load.
 
Woodleigh 240gn bullet

Seems a pity to limit that bullet weight so low.
Woodleigh are actually making a .30 cal 240gn Protected Point projectile(like a Mag Tip) specifically designed for the 30-06 as their tribute to it's 100 Year Anniversary.
They recommend 3 loads using Hodgdon powders including a 59gn load of H4831SC for a MV of 2350fps.
Here's a link for those who are interested:
http://www.woodleighbullets.com.au/images/Woodleigh Bullets Catalogue 2006 (insert).pdf
With that sort of bullet on offer wouldn't you want your rifle regulated for heavy bullets?
Mind you, word is that the Woodleigh distributor in Canada is pretty selective about what they import, more's the pity.
 
Levi Garrett said:
It would be a great short range cartridge gun, and the iron sights may be swapped out maybe for better iron. 45-70 would be a nice choice. Would not scope, as with a 94 win. would mess up the looks and feel.
Frank
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Frank, unless you have no neck and an extremely low profile head, I doubt you would be able to use the open sights. The stock is set up for a scope. I almost had my eyeball touching the stock in order to line up the sights.
 
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