Checked out some rifles.. Disappointed with Remington 700. Tikka seems nice.

I have to Rem 700 TI's and an XCR 2 ... all 3 are unreal rifles. Remington 700 has one of the most superior " FACTORY" actions on the market. To compare an SPS to other actions is asinine, the SPS is there lowest model with the cheapest finish. I would recomend a CDL at the minimum.

However ... I hunt coastal Blacktails and the terrain is tretcherous. It can be worse than sheep country ! I hunt with a guy that has bin a faller for 25 years and is as hard as a coffin nail when it comes to the mountains... He is definatly not short on cash and absolutly swears by his Tikka T3. I have to admit i am no Tikka fan at all, but as a testament to there accuracy ive seen him make anreal off hand shots out to 200 yards and unbeleavably... i think its as light as my Rem Titanium , althought ive never wieghed the T3.

Dont knock the Rems , but if you like the T3 there better than i ever thought they were.
 
Joe549 said:
A few years ago when I was looking to get a new deer rifle, the 700 was one that I had considered. After checking out several of them, talking to people and reading reviews and other articles, it quickly came off my consideration list. The bolt was horrible on all of them and it felt like it was being dragged through gravel, the finish was horrible, a couple even had rust on them and they were still brand new. One dealer said 'Remington is the worst gun on the market. I send back more of them for repair or replacement then every other manufacturer combined.'

I have seen many guys shooting 700s at the range, but they are mostly customized and heavily modified, 700 actions only for the most part. One guy was saying the action is the only thing worth buying and you still have to do a pile of work to it to get it to the point it should be when you buy it. Another guy with a brand new one couldn't get the thing to feed any kind of factory ammo from the mag, every single round jammed.

Everything I have seen, read and heard about Remington has left me wondering why people still buy them. I think they are surviving soley on the reputation the 700 and 870 had generated over the years and now that their quality has gone down the tubes, that now expired reputation alone is all that keeps them going...
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2 thumbs down on this quote ! Between my friends and family i have had to have shot 30 diffrent Remington model 700 rifles over the years. All diffrent ages and models, sps , xcr's, bdl's, cdl's, vtr's, sendero's, custom and factory. I have never seen any of them have accuracy problems, they all are MOA or better rifles and if the fit is for you they are turn key rifles ... even the SPS's , although i dont recomend the SPS's just because the finish is far from weather proof. The only one ive ever seen have any feeding problems is my 700 Titanium in 300wsm. When the brass is fire formed the bolt will grab the next round off the follower causing a falure to properly feed ... just becuase that cartridge is so fat or i might have a chamber that was cut with a brand new reamer and maybe a little larger than desirable. This problem does not exsist when the brass is full length resized. My 700 Titanium in 708 does not have this problem at all. This issue with my TI in 300wsm actually dosnt matter because the gun is so reliable and accurate that i only ever need one round !
 
I've got a couple of Remingtons and Winchester leverguns. But I strongly suspect none of them could take the abuse that my Mauser can take in due course.
Last fall my FN K-98 actioned rifle with Boyd's laminate stock took a 3 foot dive off of the shooting bench at Bonnyville! F***!!!!!
Besides one or two ugly marks on the blueing, stock scratch and a nice new silver smear on the Leupold scope (relax guys the chamber was empty) the rifle was fine otherwise. Even kept it's zero. Took about half and hour for my heart to stop racing though.
I think that mercury recoil reducer emplaced in the butt stock, helped it hit stock first versus barrel first. Also the generous stock dimension and scope/rings also helped to protect the barrel. I don't think my Browning A-Bolt or Remington 788 could have faired as well as my Mauser did IMO.
 
Personally I would be looking for a used M98 based rifle from the likes of Parker Hale, or maybe BSA, or something off tradex. You will end up with a great shooting rifle that your grand kids will still be enjoying 60 years from now. A super dependable action, tough as nails, accurate, and have enough cash left over for good optics, sling, case, dies, brass and components, or ammo all for a total under $1,500.
 
Thats strange, i like my 700 sps. the action is nice. several cdl ive cycled were solid an felt nice also.
stocks not the worst an to me feels comfiest.
interesting read
 
Obviously I really like my Mauser as a hunting rifle. However I have yet to see a Mauser (or even a nice Musgrave) at Bull Meadow or Homestead.
Lots of Remington actioned based rifles on the firing line though, along with an almost equal frequency of Savages and some Tikkas.
See more Stolle, Surgeon, Tubb and PGW rifles out west than in the east for some reason. RPAs seem to be more popular there than here.
 
I agree with the points lots of these members are making for the Mausers , the only negitive coment i have about Mausers is it is a very heavy rifle if your planning on taking it to the mountains. Hard to beat old school German engineering for durability.
 
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