Chiappa 44rem mag or 45-70

Lot's of folks don't realize the killing power of the .44 mag on dangerous game using 300-340 gr hardcast boolits launched at 1400-1500 fps from handguns. The biggest & baddest critters world wide have been routinely taken with the .44 magnum. Boolit design is critical as it be best using a truncated nose, weight forward type with a fairly wide meplat. The 320 gr ones designed by JD Jones back in the '70s proved excellent in penetration and bone busting power at the above mentioned velocities.

NEI made the molds for these, then later on bumped the weight to 330 grains. NEI went outta business a few years back, but Accurate Molds of similar design are
available.
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If folks be up on their game, the .44 mag and .45 Colt are more than adequate for big bear using 300+gr hardcast boolits at moderate velocity.
The .45-70 is super nice as well with good, hardcast 405 grainers at velocities in the 1300-1400 range.

There are options though for those that be really twitchy about hunting in grizz country.;)
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Grizz country is a unique situation, they are big, they are not friendly, they take a good thumping. I live in the south of BC with lots of black bears, if Im not carrying a hunting rifle Im carrying my mares leg 44 mag. 7 rounds of 44 mag, HSM 305 cast +p bear loads is a lots of fire power, its a very handy gun being small and its always in my hands, I cna shoot it left handed and one handed . A short barrelled 4570 is not a small gun, I owned one and I loved it for hunting but I ended up with it on my shoulder or on my sling due to its size, having the serious recoil on the heavier loads I also found it very difficult to fire not on the shoulder. In a bear defence situation where you are shooting a bear to defend yourself you have very little time and its all about getting rounds on target quickly and effectively in not perfect situation at very close range. Small, light, maneuverable with enough power to get the job done is what you are looking for so take what you will from this and handle a few guns. Two days ago, I nearly stepped on a bears head as I was walking in the bush, it was just coming out of its den and my dog walking past got its attention. It was two feet from my ankles, within a second I had the hammer cocked and put a round in the ground to get that bear to stay in its den, called the dog back (trail had to cross the den entrance, steep hill) dog was on my side now and the bear came out, put another round in the ground and the bear was on its way. I had 5 more rounds to get the job done if needed and I can tell you with the awkward angles, tight quarters and fast action I could not have done that with my 4570.
 
I have a Chiappa Wildlands in 45-70 on its way to me right now. Wasn't able to find much info on it before ordering it and I asked around quite a bit. Hope whatever you get works well for you.
 
Fargone4sure said:
I can understand someone having a burn on for Chiappa if all they have ever had is a product from their cheep stuff. But their lever actions are a completely different matter. I think it is generally accepted that Chiappa levers are very good, and for me a higher quality gun than the Rossi. But you definately pay for that quality.
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I Have the 12'' Alaskan Takedown in .44 mag, pretty darn good quality. I recommend their levers.
 
I just bought a Chiappa case hardened mares leg (takedown) in 44mag. It's a beautiful rifle. Fit and finish are light years ahead of what I thought chiappa would produce. Took it to the range with a variety of hand loads. Started shooting mild rounds as I was unsure how to hold, aim and shoot the thing. Found out really quick that it's very easy to shoot from almost any position. It handled my full power 240Gr no problem and I'm now satisfied with it. Enough that I bought a sling style holster for it to carry in the bush.

I also have a couple a Marlin 1895 both of which are great rifles but for a grab and go bush gun it's hard to best the size and weight of the 44 mag mares leg.. Plus it fits in my glove box taken down which is a bonus.
 
Spuhalsky said:
I just bought a Chiappa case hardened mares leg (takedown) in 44mag. It's a beautiful rifle. Fit and finish are light years ahead of what I thought chiappa would produce. Took it to the range with a variety of hand loads. Started shooting mild rounds as I was unsure how to hold, aim and shoot the thing. Found out really quick that it's very easy to shoot from almost any position. It handled my full power 240Gr no problem and I'm now satisfied with it. Enough that I bought a sling style holster for it to
I also have a couple a Marlin 1895 both of which are great rifles but for a grab and go bush gun it's hard to best the size and weight of the 44 mag mares leg.. Plus it fits in my glove box taken down which is a bonus.
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I think I would prefer a full stock, making it maybe a bit more versatile!
 
I have a 20" bbl 44 magnum Alaskan and I like it. Can't comment on loading for bear, not a problem where I am.

Skinner do a very nice takedown case.

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Currently with a Leupold 2.5x28 Scout Scope

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Skinner carry case:

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Reckon should be good for a cleaning kit / rod and an MTM box of 50 rds.

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And when you unpack it:

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And out on the range:

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DGY said:
I think I would just go aperture sight, makes it lower profile!!
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I tried it with the ghost ring aperture, then tried it with the dot sight. I'm a huge fan of the ghost rings. But the dot site was much faster to get on target, and more accurate as well. I like the ghost ring lower profile, but had to admit the dot sight really improved the effectiveness of the gun. And with my aging eyes, it was a serious upgrade.
 
Fargone4sure said:
I tried it with the ghost ring aperture, then tried it with the dot sight. I'm a huge fan of the ghost rings. But the dot site was much faster to get on target, and more accurate as well. I like the ghost ring lower profile, but had to admit the dot sight really improved the effectiveness of the gun. And with my aging eyes, it was a serious upgrade.
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Good to know, might be worth to try one out!
 
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