Chiappa big badger 30-30

jbmauser said:
Are these made the same way as the one the guy had in 243 where the barrel blew off? Hopefully they do a better job of keeping the barrel in place than on the double badger.
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It's a new gun as far as I can see.

Does it look the same to you as the ones your concerned about?

Chiappa is not the best company when it comes to quality control and while they make and have made some interesting guns, they have a bigger history of lemons and expensive crap then most European manufacturers.
 
Goose762 said:
Rimmed calibers such as 30-30 are better suited for break actions, I'd be surprised to see a departure from those in this design.
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350 legend is the other rifle caliber they're making, it's not rimmed. Lots of break actions in non-rimmed calibers, my Henry Single Shot is in 243.

https://www.chiappafirearms.com/category/gun/rifles/single-barrel/big-badger

Can-down said:
We will see, I have a .308 break action, and to be honest I've never really looked that closely at the extractor to see how it works..... this is the first time I've heard someone suggest that a .223 and other similar non rimmed cartridges pose problems for break actions?
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Rimless cartridges can be inserted past the extractor when loading, or the extractor can slip on extraction easier. Rimmed cartridges are less likely to have these issues in a break action so they're considered better suited for them, but there's plenty of break actions using rimless cartridges so clearly it's not that big of a deal.


I need a 30-30 in the collection and win94 prices have gotten pretty crazy so I'm very much interested in checking out the Big Badger when they get here.
 
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Can-down said:
It's a new gun as far as I can see.

Does it look the same to you as the ones your concerned about?

Chiappa is not the best company when it comes to quality control and while they make and have made some interesting guns, they have a bigger history of lemons and expensive crap then most European manufacturers.
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Hard to tell much from the pictures but they both look similar in construction, a block with a barrel pressed in. I don’t know. That might not be the case at all.
 
jbmauser said:
Hard to tell much from the pictures but they both look similar in construction, a block with a barrel pressed in. I don’t know. That might not be the case at all.
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Press fit is not uncommon, what ever they use hopefully it's a win for them and us.
 
Suther said:
Rimless cartridges can be inserted past the extractor when loading, or the extractor can slip on extraction easier. Rimmed cartridges are less likely to have these issues in a break action so they're considered better suited for them, but there's plenty of break actions using rimless cartridges so clearly it's not that big of a deal.


I need a 30-30 in the collection and win94 prices have gotten pretty crazy so I'm very much interested in checking out the Big Badger when they get here.
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Thanks Suther, your now the second person who has brought up this potential problem.... like I wrote earlier, I can understand the theory, I just have not experienced it myself when using non rimmed cartridges in a cheap rossi single shot.

I guess we will see soon enough whether it's a problem or not.
 
Flip up iron sights like a Tavor x95 would be great on this.
Flipped down- you never know they are there.
Flipped up- decent peep sight for when your optic breaks or just solely rely on these in the first place.
 
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For sure it will be pretty easy to mount sights on the rail, I'm kind of glad they left the barrel snag free though and with the quality and quantity of micro optics availlable today there are many good options.

I can see this new product from Chiappa being quite popular with people for modifications and customization similar to the little badger's
 
Can-down said:
Thanks Suther, your now the second person who has brought up this potential problem.... like I wrote earlier, I can understand the theory, I just have not experienced it myself when using non rimmed cartridges in a cheap rossi single shot.

I guess we will see soon enough whether it's a problem or not.
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I can skip the extractor if I try, but I've yet to do it by accident.

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With rimless cartridges the extractor needs a bit of flex in it so the cartridge can push it out of the way upon insertion and then snap into the extraction groove. On a rimmed cartridge this flex is not required and thus less likely to cause issues.
 
Suther said:
I can skip the extractor if I try, but I've yet to do it by accident.

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With rimless cartridges the extractor needs a bit of flex in it so the cartridge can push it out of the way upon insertion and then snap into the extraction groove. On a rimmed cartridge this flex is not required and thus less likely to cause issues.
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Thanks for the pictures,
I get it, I've just never experienced the issue in actual use as you mention.

Given Chiappa's record of producting some turds over the years I hope their design team figures it out!
 
I have a Little Badger in .22 mag I really like, enough so that I purchased Bad Ace Tactical's carbon fiber barrel shroud iron sights & metal pic rail combo set (on sale atm).
If they make this rifle in a larger caliber I'm in.
 
Johnyy said:
If 30-30 is their initial offering, this can be scaled down, & up a bit perhaps. They just need to make them, & will def. sell a ton / No brainer, well, depending on Price. I'm sure in USA will be nicely priced, wondering how much we'll get hosed. Would love one in 7.62x39, 5.56 & some larger pistol calibers. {Interchangeable barrels perhaps?}
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Chiappas website price on the little Badger is $265, with $229 being pretty typical retail price (a quick Google found them ranging from $209-249). They list the la322 at $442 and they can be had for $499-550. Extrapolate that to the $354 price for the Big Badger and I would expect these to fall somewhere between $320 and $400. Over $400 and I think the demand will greatly deflate...
 
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