chinese mil surp
- Thread starter emmab
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Hi there curtton long time no see. will these work, pics that you want?.Thanks for the info bearhunter I didn't see your post til i posted. Well that's good news then isn't it!!!How did you figure all that out so fasT!!! Cheers
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- Central Sask
How can you tell what year?
thanks for the pic emmab .
actually no . i dont think /306\ is from longyan arsenal but /36\ was from there and also its not made in 1956 , there was only one factory that was building SKS in 1956 and that is factory 26 (jianshe arsenal).
there is no way of telling when a chinese SKS was made in except one made in /26\.
the best we can do is figure out the production class and judging from the features , this one is from the mid production.
actually no . i dont think /306\ is from longyan arsenal but /36\ was from there and also its not made in 1956 , there was only one factory that was building SKS in 1956 and that is factory 26 (jianshe arsenal).
there is no way of telling when a chinese SKS was made in except one made in /26\.
the best we can do is figure out the production class and judging from the features , this one is from the mid production.
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The "SKS Carbine" says that the first digit indicates the year of manufacture starting from 1956, example if the serial number starts with 7 = 1963. Serial numbers starting with 1 = first year of production.
From what I can find, 306 and 36, in the triangle, are the same factory.
I am more than willing to admit my information may not be correct. I am getting most of it from "The SKS Carbine (CKC45g), by Steve Kehaya and Joe Poyer. 4th edition, from North Cape Pulications. Some about the factory codes, off the web.
If you can enlighten us with other information, it would be much appreciated and not considered offensive in any way.
From what I can find, 306 and 36, in the triangle, are the same factory.
I am more than willing to admit my information may not be correct. I am getting most of it from "The SKS Carbine (CKC45g), by Steve Kehaya and Joe Poyer. 4th edition, from North Cape Pulications. Some about the factory codes, off the web.
If you can enlighten us with other information, it would be much appreciated and not considered offensive in any way.
lejarretnoir
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- 162km from Connaught
The stamped trigger guard and threaded barrel is a clue that it was made mid production. Early production would have a milled trigger guard like the one I use to own. Late production has pinned barrel and stamped trigger guard and I'm sure there's the exceptions.
same book , page 25 near the bottom says factory 26.
the way it works with figuring out when a rifle was manufactured in china was to add the millionth numbers to the year the factory first used the code (most cases) since china has not provide that info except for factory 26 which we now know was in 1956. so without that info the formula wouldnt work .
It should say ridgearms. Local guy on the ee. Has(had?) a few extra for sale $175. picked up. Good to go!
- Location
- In the Badlands of Alberta
Not correct. Hopefully Howie will jump in on this. But I'll take a shot. The /306\ rifles that we are now seeing were made the year the barrels were changed. The 1.5 mil ones are threaded. The 1.6 mil ones are pinned. If I remember correctly that would be around 11 or 12 mil if they were made at /26\
- Location
- In the Badlands of Alberta
That's my thoughts on it. Maybe Howie or Bob will give us some ideas.
at factory 26 , they may have switched even earlier, in the 9 million serial number (1965), i have a long barrel lug at 9.1 million SN and a pic of a short barrel lug at 9.2 million SN.
but with other factories , most likely they followed later so its possible.
I think they are from frontier
howiebearse
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- Cape Cod Massachusetts USA
what I belive on parts is
The Chinese system of manufacture other than factory triangle 26 (factory number 296) which made all its own parts. Is that the stem has parts produced all over China they are shipped to assembly shops and put together whith what is sent. Milled or stamped makes no difference. The Receivers may be done the same way and assembled then the factory code and serial numbers added. They do not have a system like many other countries that had updates I do not believe that they went from milled to stamped pinned barrels from screwed in barrels at any particular serial number range. I have been told that the shops stamp the codes on as they need them. With several codes coming from one shop. This makes it appear that they have a large factory complex throughout China. The ammunition is found the same way with over 30 know headstamps. They may use the factory codes for ID as to what units they go to but I am not even sure thay have any meaning other to make them look like they have allot of factories. Study the various guns you get and you may find a mixed bag of milled or stamped parts. The factory 26 guns are always the same as they progress in serial range. all the ones up to and including the 9 million range were still using the stock of Russian supplied parts. The Russian parts were only used on Factory 26 guns.
The Chinese system of manufacture other than factory triangle 26 (factory number 296) which made all its own parts. Is that the stem has parts produced all over China they are shipped to assembly shops and put together whith what is sent. Milled or stamped makes no difference. The Receivers may be done the same way and assembled then the factory code and serial numbers added. They do not have a system like many other countries that had updates I do not believe that they went from milled to stamped pinned barrels from screwed in barrels at any particular serial number range. I have been told that the shops stamp the codes on as they need them. With several codes coming from one shop. This makes it appear that they have a large factory complex throughout China. The ammunition is found the same way with over 30 know headstamps. They may use the factory codes for ID as to what units they go to but I am not even sure thay have any meaning other to make them look like they have allot of factories. Study the various guns you get and you may find a mixed bag of milled or stamped parts. The factory 26 guns are always the same as they progress in serial range. all the ones up to and including the 9 million range were still using the stock of Russian supplied parts. The Russian parts were only used on Factory 26 guns.
Same difference. From what I understand, ALL these factory 306's from the latest batch originated from Tradex and distributed to their usual dealers, including Frontier.
