Chinese or Russian Tokarev?

Smitticus said:
Thoughts? Thinking of add a new handgun to the collection, Chinese seem cheaper but is it a “get what you pay for” situation?
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Just say "No."

A Tokarev, no matter who made it, is the next thing to being totally useless. Okay, it's cheap, I'll give you that, but since when is that (being cheap) enough? If Caitlyn Jenner was a cheap date, does that mean that you should want to date her?

Same thing with a Tokarev.
 
Wendell said:
Just say "No."

A Tokarev, no matter who made it, is the next thing to being totally useless. Okay, it's cheap, I'll give you that, but since when is that (being cheap) enough? If Caitlyn Jenner was a cheap date, does that mean that you should want to date her?

Same thing with a Tokarev.
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Ha, funny there, but, wrong. These are your basic socialist sidearm, everything you need, nothing you don't, not a Smith or Colt but accurate once you shoot it enough, the metal is great quality, the labor to make these when adding in the Chinese M54 was probably $1.50/hr, so cheap to make, not cheap. The round is light fast and deadly, one of the few that can pierce bullet proof vests. Easy strip down, works good, should last a long time for $179.99 FUN!
 
I’m surprised that CZ never made a small carbine in the 7.62x25, they made one in x39
Hopefully someone does in the future, I’d buy one for sure
 
AlbertaJohn said:
Wouldn't it be nice if there was a carbine in 7.62 x 25
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It would be awesome, especially if it took tt-33 mags. I’d love a carbine in x25.

sixty9santa said:
Is a post war Russian Tokarev worth $330?
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I wouldn’t sell my post war Russian tt-33 for less than $300, add the 4 extra mags and kydex holster and you’ll be closer to $400. It’s as near mint condition as a surplus pistol can be.
 
jonyork said:
Kydex holster for TT33?

Where? I need to know!
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It was a random $12-15 eBay find, it’s a left handed holster as well. I found some leather safariland 2 mag pouches that fit the tt-33 mags really snug. They’re a police style duty mag pouch, have a cover with a snap on the flap.

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bobdbldr said:
That's interesting, how many surplus M54 tok's did you own! Mine is awesome, along with my 1911's, but, there are some duds out there, from most manufacturers Chinese or not!
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I've had 2, although they were the 54-1, don't know if this is commercial or surplus, 1 new out of the box would fire when the slide was released, which is obviously bad news.

Also had an SKS with the softest wood stock imaginable and an M305 that the rear sight would move with every shot.
 
MiG25 said:
I've had 2, although they were the 54-1, don't know if this is commercial or surplus, 1 new out of the box would fire when the slide was released, which is obviously bad news.

Also had an SKS with the softest wood stock imaginable and an M305 that the rear sight would move with every shot.
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Never heard of a problem like that with the pistols almost sounds like dried Cosmo in the firming pin Channel. The stocks on their sks are what folks call chew or choo wood, soft as Puppy $#!t I agree but aside from that they are supposed to be well built and as accurate as other sks 4 moa ish, I never bought the M305 due to the issues like you mentioned although people buy them by the buckets and fix the few issues, apparently the are great once the " issues are addressed" I couldn't be bothered, would like a nice one though.
 
Mig 25, were the tok's 54-1 or type 51? I looked it up a bit and the type 51 were the initial ones in China, might have been made in Russia or in China on Russian equipment! Kind of interesting, they say the ones that made it here were mostly used so yours might have had a bent pin but I still hold to a piece of dirt or Cosmo in the channel, I think the communists used to drink that stuff! Do you still have either one of those pistols?
https://www.americanrifleman.org/ar...karev-pistols-military-and-commercial-models/
This is the info I found!
 
54-1, with an added safety. Gunsmith worked over the one that would fire with the slide being released, it wasn't from cosmo.

I did have a supposedly unissued Yugo SKS that would slamfire, it had a burred firing pin that a little emory cured.
 
I have Chinese, Russian and Polish and and the Yugo.

Yugo is the worst.

Russian and Chinese are about the same. Post war Russian is well finished.

Polish is the best, and shoots better, too.

But if you buy steel core surplus ammo it may not be acceptable on an indoor range.

I have a case of lead core surplus. Works well.
 
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