Chinese type 81 Non restricted, not on the FRT

fenceline said:
Haha. Not I. Although that debt is paid off already haha. When it gets here, it will be like getting a free gun.
I'm ready for that wait.
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Yeah I'm not expecting to see the thing for a loooong time.

This "not AR" in the works looks very interesting though and I do hope the type 81 makes it through, I would love to have one.
 
fenceline said:
Oh that is good news!!!

Bringing this closer to the original topic, when you say 3 years, does that include the first samples time, or just the time the second sample has been at the lab?
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3 years is the amount of time the sample sat on the shelf before they were willing to pull it off the shelf and start te examination process. It could be a couple months or it could be a couple years before they finish with the process. The entire process is all based on how they feel about the firearm. Some new firearms can go through examination right away and others can take many years. It's all dependant on the mood of the lab and wether they like the design or wether they hate it and wanna drag it out. There is flat out no set guideline for time frame, it's all political.

When you send a new design sample into the lab quite often they don't want just one sample. It can be two or three as they will butcher one possibly two doing everything they can to make it go full auto and make it prohibited. The second is for them to shoot and actually use for practical purposes, plus the techs get to take it home and show it off to all their liberal weiner friends.
 
Tyockell18 said:
Yeah I'm not expecting to see the thing for a loooong time.

This "not AR" in the works looks very interesting though and I do hope the type 81 makes it through, I would love to have one.
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When people refer to it as the " not AR " you are throwing a nail in the coffin. The lab is well known for trolling the forum here and when we say stuff like this it's really condemning it to a slow death of classed AR variant. This is why we scrapped the carbine rifle design in the thread I had going and are working on a different version but not posting any info about it so the peanut gallery can screw it up for us in advance.
 
Im willing to bet the t81 would give the cz858 a run for its money in the performance aspect. Ergonomically speaking they are relatively the same but i think the rotating bolt would give it an edge over the tilting bolt in reliability. I also find it interesting how the chinese went from something that was easy to use for conscripts to a bull pup that is the most awkward thing to shoot. The safety at the rear should have been a huge issue right off the drawing board. I guess its pointless trying to make sense of their high command decisions considering they chose the sks to go up against their own ak47's in vietnam
 
The AK47 in china was issued to officers as a "sub machine" gun role only. The RPD and SKS were primary issue to the troops right up to 1979 for the first Sino-Vietnamese War where the vietnamese had a decided firepower advantage with the AK47 over the SKS.

The type 81 was developed to replace the sks, not the ak47. It was also meant to be a temporary replacement but lasted to the present day with the 95 bullpup replacing it.
 
mildcustom2 said:
When people refer to it as the " not AR " you are throwing a nail in the coffin. The lab is well known for trolling the forum here and when we say stuff like this it's really condemning it to a slow death of classed AR variant. This is why we scrapped the carbine rifle design in the thread I had going and are working on a different version but not posting any info about it so the peanut gallery can screw it up for us in advance.
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I'm pretty sure they will just try and screw us over any way they can regardless, me saying something on a forum isn't going to matter one iota, they already hate everything anyways.
 
You guys don't know Artie, but he was a wise man at my work. He had some simple rules. Here are two that apply:

#3 Don't believe anything until two weeks after it's happened.
#4 The only thing that's for sure is that nothing is for sure.
 
This is absolutely one of the coolest things I've seen yet for the SKS! I've dreaming of something like this for a while. I've sent emails to various SKS accessories MFG's e.g. ATI, Archangel etc. but no response. This is what I want, a "REALL METAL" feel for an SKS accessory. I remember a time when a plastic stock on a rifle meant it was the discount base model or the cheap version. My old man used to call this age as the, "plastic epoch".
 
fenceline said:
Don't get too excited too quickly. Be hopeful, but do those sleep over it either. I'll be excited when the frt is published, AND the frt says "non restricted".

This might tide you over in the mean time though...

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1041623-The-AK-SKS-kit
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This is absolutely one of the coolest things I've seen yet for the SKS! I've dreaming of something like this for a while. I've sent emails to various SKS accessories MFG's e.g. ATI, Archangel etc. but no response. This is what I want, a "REALL METAL" feel for an SKS accessory. I remember a time when a plastic stock on a rifle meant it was the discount base model or the cheap version. My old man used to call this age as the, "plastic epoch".
 
I do feel we're going to be waiting for a while longer. Maybe the new updates to our laws that Blaney brought in will put some fire under the RCMP's ass. Or maybe it'll make them butthurt and more vindictive like the end of the LGR did. I'm betting on the latter because I'm a pessimistic bastard. Either way, when these things are up for sale I shall be pre-ordering one at least one. Wonderful sounding forearms.
 
That guns and ammo article has the phrase "assault rifle" peppered throughout. I thought we wanted that nomenclature to go away, especially with the antis. Why did this mag use it? Serious question.
 
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