Not true, with the exception of bottom eject, they are not remotely close to being the same gun. I've owned and stripped down several of each.
Choice for my first pump?
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Not true, with the exception of bottom eject, they are not remotely close to being the same gun. I've owned and stripped down several of each.
Falconflyer
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All Model 12's are "take down", maybe your thinking of the M97 which was made in take down and non-take down models.
Out of what we have in Canada I would buy a Mossberg 500. If available I would buy an Ithaca M37. A Browning BPS would be a third option, but they are heavier than a M37 and kind of clunky handling. Remington 870 would be my last choice, hate the loading gate (which you have on 90% of shotguns) and only one I owned jammed constantly and was just not a great gun.
Brutus
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The one and only failure I experienced on a M37, I bought on our EE a 20 gauge circa 1971.
The seller said it did have a heavy career warerfowling pre steel. After 5 years of upland hunting one shell stop gave out.
Had it replaced and it's faultless once again.
The seller said it did have a heavy career warerfowling pre steel. After 5 years of upland hunting one shell stop gave out.
Had it replaced and it's faultless once again.
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Go for an older 870 with 26” barrel. I bought mine new almost 20 years ago and after thousands of shells and being dropped in mud, water, snow and sand a few times it has never shown a hint of letting me down. It’s been completely submerged in water two times I believe. I find the 26” barrel to be a good overall length for everything.
Most importantly, try a few different guns (ideally shoot them, but at least shoulder them) to see what you and your body like most. You can have the best gun around, but if it doesn’t fit proper you’ll be missing targets and possibly beat up your shoulder.
Most importantly, try a few different guns (ideally shoot them, but at least shoulder them) to see what you and your body like most. You can have the best gun around, but if it doesn’t fit proper you’ll be missing targets and possibly beat up your shoulder.
Also a mossberg fan, I prefer the location of the slide release (at the rear of the trigger guard rather than infront like Rem and many others)
holding a 3" shell beside it, it looks like it would eject it. Not sure if the story is the same after the crimp is opened up though.
is that really such a big deal? A steel rib over comfort?
Yeah, it does feel long, and being a pump doesnt help. All I have shot before was my Russian SxS.
I am keepin an eye out for another short barrel.
This one fits me pretty good!
sillymike
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When you're used to a SxS (or O/U), pretty all the pumps/semi will feel kind of long
When you're used to a SxS (or O/U), pretty all the pumps/semi will feel kind of long
Even moreso if you're used to a shorter-barreled gun like a 18-20" break action! My single shot beside my semi auto is at least a foot difference.
well do not loose or break your ribs in alloy that was not a risk to be taken by me as sometimes you can not use your tool on the soft side only.
BPS. All the way.
If SHTF and other than the rib falls off, it will still function well). BTW. I've never heard of any BPS have the rib fall off?!
Unless some DIYers tried to cut the barrels on 'em. Lol...
they do not fall they bent ... on another note cleaning the trigger group is way more harder than any 870 ...
They bend, when you do what to it? I'd like to see that.
it did not happen to me but it happened to a member that tried to get the barrel fixed by browning ... you can defend all you want your favorite shotgun. i did liked them and sold the day it happened ...
i did not take the risk that it might happen and i never or purchase defective items here ...
