Chrome-lined barrels VS. Non-Chrome-lined barrels

Anyone here actually had trouble with their non chromed VZ? My buddy has pitting in his, but I wonder how common it is.

Ben
 
I have a non chrome lined Russian SKS that's pitted like a bomb field and its just as inaccurate as any other SKS I've ever fired with, or without a chrome lined barrel. You're way over thinking this. Your barrel isn't going to warp. People have an amazing hard on for hating non-chrome lined barrels and love to post all kinds of bull#### all over the web about them. As one person has already said. A User on CGN already has over 50,000 rounds though an 858 and its still chugging along fine with no major accuracy loss.
 
What I don't understand is how a chrome lined barrel is supposed to prevent a barrel from warping in a high heat scenario.

The chrome lining is a hard, thin coating within the bore. It will certainly reduce wear within the bore over a non-chrome lined barrel when the round count gets high. But the chrome is going to transfer heat to the barrel just the same as if it wasn't there. If the barrel thickness is such that it will withstand a certain amount of heat prior to warping what does having a chrome liner have to do with it?

What am I missing here?
 
Chrome vs non-chromed barrel: It is my opinion from owning and shooting many dozen of these rifles for close to four decades that Chrome lined barrels were designed for rifle longevity in harsh field conditions alone. Dirt, moisture, corrosive ammunition, and frequent cleaning are the top four causes of barrel degradation. It is also my opinion that chrome barrels make no difference at all for accuracy, heat, or barrel wear.

I have no issues to purchase a non-chromed rifle vs chromed. They all shoot well.
 
Mumbles Marble Mouth said:
I have a non chrome lined Russian SKS that's pitted like a bomb field and its just as inaccurate as any other SKS I've ever fired with, or without a chrome lined barrel. You're way over thinking this. Your barrel isn't going to warp. People have an amazing hard on for hating non-chrome lined barrels and love to post all kinds of bull#### all over the web about them. As one person has already said. A User on CGN already has over 50,000 rounds though an 858 and its still chugging along fine with no major accuracy loss.
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SSShh Don't tell the hords that. We will be buying cheap cz's, if anyone ever brings in cl ones. For Gods sake people clean them after shooting corrosive.
 
Mumbles Marble Mouth said:
I have a non chrome lined Russian SKS that's pitted like a bomb field and its just as inaccurate as any other SKS I've ever fired with, or without a chrome lined barrel. You're way over thinking this. Your barrel isn't going to warp. People have an amazing hard on for hating non-chrome lined barrels and love to post all kinds of bull#### all over the web about them. As one person has already said. A User on CGN already has over 50,000 rounds though an 858 and its still chugging along fine with no major accuracy loss.
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I have a friend in the US who's Dad has what is very likely a Vietnam bringback Type 56 SKS with a blade bayonet. When I say likely, it is because it cannot be 100% proven, but it has no import markings, the stock is in extremely rough shape, and the working parts have that jungle patina you see on so many bringback SKS's. It was purchased at a gunstore in Michigan just after the passage of the Assault Weapons Ban in 1994.

The gas system is in pretty good shape, but the barrel leaves a lot to be desired. It's chrome-lined, like all Type 56's but it's fairly pitted, frosty, and the crown has seen better days. I cannot imagine how many rounds it must have seen, but the old girl has been used. The stock is also a lot sloppier in the action than pretty much every other SKS I've seen. The reason I say this, is, because I've fired it. It doesn't shoot any worse than my six SKS carbines which are either brand new ones from Yugoslavia, Russia or China, or well refurbished Russian ones. It groups fine, it doesn't keyhole, it functions perfectly and my friend gets hits out to 200 yards with it.

These rifles are built to stand up to hard use. I think we take barrel wear a bit too seriously. By all means keep your barrel clean and in working order, but if that old Chinese SKS that was clearly used rough and maintained rarely can take it, we don't have much to worry about.

Cheers.
 
Dsiwy said:
Chrome line pros

-smoother extraction "prevents hard extractions"
-easyier to clean
-prevents rust
-longer barrel life on full auto guns

Cons

-price
-lose of accuracy "like less then .25 moa" so not a issue with any semi auto lol.
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Well explained thanks.. and makes sense
 
sircastic said:
What I don't understand is how a chrome lined barrel is supposed to prevent a barrel from warping in a high heat scenario.

The chrome lining is a hard, thin coating within the bore. It will certainly reduce wear within the bore over a non-chrome lined barrel when the round count gets high. But the chrome is going to transfer heat to the barrel just the same as if it wasn't there. If the barrel thickness is such that it will withstand a certain amount of heat prior to warping what does having a chrome liner have to do with it?

What am I missing here?
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I doubt you could heat one up enough to have a noticeable difference whether its chromed or not.
 
Andurp said:
I have a friend in the US who's Dad has what is very likely a Vietnam bringback Type 56 SKS with a blade bayonet. When I say likely, it is because it cannot be 100% proven, but it has no import markings, the stock is in extremely rough shape, and the working parts have that jungle patina you see on so many bringback SKS's. It was purchased at a gunstore in Michigan just after the passage of the Assault Weapons Ban in 1994.

The gas system is in pretty good shape, but the barrel leaves a lot to be desired. It's chrome-lined, like all Type 56's but it's fairly pitted, frosty, and the crown has seen better days. I cannot imagine how many rounds it must have seen, but the old girl has been used. The stock is also a lot sloppier in the action than pretty much every other SKS I've seen. The reason I say this, is, because I've fired it. It doesn't shoot any worse than my six SKS carbines which are either brand new ones from Yugoslavia, Russia or China, or well refurbished Russian ones. It groups fine, it doesn't keyhole, it functions perfectly and my friend gets hits out to 200 yards with it.

These rifles are built to stand up to hard use. I think we take barrel wear a bit too seriously. By all means keep your barrel clean and in working order, but if that old Chinese SKS that was clearly used rough and maintained rarely can take it, we don't have much to worry about.

Cheers.
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Neat. Makes you wish guns could talk.

My SKS is old. A 1950 Tula. With the bayonet marked up and chipped, the barrel scratched and pitted. I can only imagine the Conscripts that used and trained with it way back then. Only puts a smile on my face when I think about what its possible past could of been.
 
sircastic said:
What I don't understand is how a chrome lined barrel is supposed to prevent a barrel from warping in a high heat scenario.

What am I missing here?
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Without the chrome lining, the barrel quickly deteriorates under high heat conditions. The chrome is not affected (does not deteriorate more) under high heat conditions. The 7.62x39 round is not hot enough to deteriorate a non-chromed lined barrel under normal conditions, but could deteriorate a non-chromed lined barrel under automatic fire conditions. The velocity of the .223 round is fast/hot enough to quickly deteriorate any barrel that isn't chrome lined.
 
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