classifications and uplifts

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I have a few questions on the impact of large matches (Eg. the level III at Barrie this past weekend.) and how someone is classified.

“Level III Upgrade:
An automatic upgrade may result in a level III or higher match (in all divisions). There must be a minimum of one “current” Master and one “current” Grand Master competitor per division. There must be a minimum number of 10 competitors in the division. There also must be a minimum number of 5 competitors in the particular classification involved and if the winner of a particular classification for the match has a final percentage that falls into a higher classification then the winner would automatically upgrade. Note: this is a one classification upgrade only and only up to the classification of A. A competitor cannot make a Master or Grand Master classification in
this fashion. (For example: if there are 6 standard B classified competitors and top B is 87%, then he/she becomes classified as A).
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It's unclear what the purpose of the "uplift" is ( I would have have assumed that it would be used to "uplift" a lower shooter to a higher classification if there was a lot of top shooters in the current class. is this correct?)


Does the "uplift" only apply to the winner in that particular class? Eg. the top shooter in the B class? or does it apply to any B class shooter who is shooting above thier class range?

As a new shooter, and this being my first classifer would this "uplift" effect me?

Eg. here is the order of the B class shooters which my score fell into (72.96 - B class)

Production – B Class Shooters

13 78.90
14 78.68
15 75.99
16 75.68
18 72.96 (This is me)
20 69.49
23 66.51
25 63.97
27 61.96
29 60.74
30 58.41
35 49.70
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Thanks.
 
basically in your case it would mean if you are top "B" class shooter for the level III match and all the conditions required are met and your score is in the "A" class range you would move upto "A" class.... and "A" class starts at 75% so with the results you listed only the 13th placed shooter at 78.90 is now an A class shooter.
 
Since this is your first classifier...the score will be used as part of the calculation for your class (you won't get classed until you have 3 classifiers)

The "uplift won't effect you.

We used to class shooters after their first match...but felt that the average of 3 was much more accurate (no sand bagging or grand bagging) :cool:

Cheers
 
This is Provincial classification you are talking about? No one seems to be shooting ICS for production as the stats have not changed nearly two months.
 
Fwiw, there will be a ICS level 1 at Barrie this weekend.

Evildoer and I got first and second D at the nationals 2 years ago!
 
Musky Hunter said:
Fwiw, there will be a ICS level 1 at Barrie this weekend.

Evildoer and I got first and second D at the nationals 2 years ago!
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Cool, I got 1st D last year at Nationals. It is good that they recognize classes as it is a positive way to encourage new shooters to stick with the sport, and increase numbers.
 
FWIW, how many ICS stages were included in your region's Provincials?

If we are going to use ICS classification for the Nationals, all L2 and L3 matches should incorporate more ICS stages. This would keep things more current.
 
Musky Hunter said:
FWIW, how many ICS stages were included in your region's Provincials?

If we are going to use ICS classification for the Nationals, all L2 and L3 matches should incorporate more ICS stages. This would keep things more current.
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Agreed, but how many people can afford to go to shoot ICS all over the province? I had to travel either to NS for a 3 hr drive, or up north for 3 hour drive to get recently reclassified. Ironic as my club is supposed to have ICS this sunday.:redface:
I could have waited but I didn't want to chance it. We had a terrible amount of rain this year, and the earlier match that was supposed to have ICS in it got cancelled.
 
Musky Hunter said:
FWIW, how many ICS stages were included in your region's Provincials?

If we are going to use ICS classification for the Nationals, all L2 and L3 matches should incorporate more ICS stages. This would keep things more current.
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Alberta just had her Provincials (1st/2nd July) and there were 4 ICS stages in the match (4 is the min required for a classification).

Alberta also has a policy that all L2 matches have at least 2 ICS stages.
 
Musky Hunter said:
It is cool idea but looking at the current ICS status the real GMs are all A and M shooters. Bah..
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and the Ont provincial champion is a B ;)

that's what you get from a classification system based purely on speed shoots (since virtually no one sets up longer ics stages, and even so, they are sooooo artificial, it's useless).

ICS stages are the equivalent of those forced, technical exercises we used to have in figure skating competitions - I don't know if you remember them, but sort of like how close to a perfect circle can you skate, how close to a perfect figure 8, etc, etc - nothing to do with actual dance, but articifical technical details. I find that ICS stages are like that, for most part...
 
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