clays on crown land????

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Having started my shooting hobby as a pistol shooter I'm used to following super strict guidelines... But I've taken up sporting clays/skeet/trap....

My questions is what are the rules when shooting on crown land? Can I be on crown land shooting clays? - If so, do I need to have a hunting license for the current season? Or can I just show up, and have fun?

the lack of restrictions is so confusing! hehehe - Basically I want to shoot clays, but not at a crowded club...
 
Its going to depend on your location. Perhaps someone from your province could help you. It would certainly be possible to do here in Manitoba at a suitable location.
 
I would probably be looking for some private property to be shooting on. Beretta Boy is right, no need to tick off people who use the property for hiking, etc. by leaving debris on public lands.
 
I pick up alot of garbage on private AND public land.

..and once a year I leave some broken clays on crown land. I pick up the other debris. (I don't think the clays hurt the environment)
 
We do it every year on the crown in Ont without any problems from anyone.We even shoot clays over water with lead shot!I called the MNR to ask if this was OK.and they said the lead shot ban only applied to hunting waterfowl.
 
captonion said:
We do it every year on the crown in Ont without any problems from anyone.We even shoot clays over water with lead shot!I called the MNR to ask if this was OK.and they said the lead shot ban only applied to hunting waterfowl.
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You can pretty much do all that stuff on crown. Just make sure there are no municipal bilaws with any restrictions..
 
44fordy said:
I pick up alot of garbage on private AND public land.

..and once a year I leave some broken clays on crown land. I pick up the other debris. (I don't think the clays hurt the environment)
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+1 the clays are bio degradeable and you can easily pick up your hulls, as for the wads they are the only culprit.

Try your club when there is not a trap or skeet practice and you and your friends can be the only ones there.
 
I'm in Manitoba, so if anybody knows a nice place I could go, please let me know... And yeah, I know it kinda leaves a mess behind, but of course I'd pick up as much as the garbage as possible... And yeah, I'd prefer private property, but I don 't know anybody with suitable land. -
 
clays biodegrate quickly. there is NO law agains clays on crown land in BC. wouldn;t think there would be any in the other provinces.

just please pick up your hulls.
 
Amphibious said:
clays biodegrate quickly.
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Thad said:
+1 the clays are bio degradeable
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Clay pigeons are made of petroleum pitch and limestone. They are not biodegradable.

It is possible to purchase biodegradable clays, they cost more, are harder to find in stores and have a higher percentage of failures during launch (they break easily). An example is the White Flyer Biodegradable clays.

I have shot clays on public lands using the degradable targets. Even with them, pieces were still there a year later. They don't degrade that fast.

Sharptail
 
I think you have to employ some common sense about the present nature of the area. An abandoned rock quarry that was already littered, I wouldn't be too worried about the clays. Its too bad they are not, along with the waddings, all biodegradable.
 
Sharptail said:
Clay pigeons are made of petroleum pitch and limestone. They are not biodegradable.

It is possible to purchase biodegradable clays, they cost more, are harder to find in stores and have a higher percentage of failures during launch (they break easily). An example is the White Flyer Biodegradable clays.

I have shot clays on public lands using the degradable targets. Even with them, pieces were still there a year later. They don't degrade that fast.

Sharptail
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I was out hiking one day about 15 years ago or so and came out behind our neighbours house which had been unoccupied and for sale for many years now. In the back field in and sheltered by trees I found clays lying on the ground probably 10-20 years old or so estimated by the time that the house was last occupied and it's proximity to ours. I don't know about newer ones but these certainly weren't bio-degradable. In fact I found a half dozen or so intact ones and we launched them at the range that same weekend just like they were new! Had a good old laugh about that one.

Some of them were buried in moss and grass while others just sat on the ground with their bright colouring faded or discoloured. To put it into perspective, the hulls that were lying in the same area, were so badly rusted, tarnished or worn out that the brand was not recognizable anymore though I believe some of them were C.I.L. branded.
 
Clays on Crown Land

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First of all, Sharptail and the others are right. Clay targets are made pf pitch, limestone, and other products that do not biodegrade.

We tend to forget that others use Crown Lands too. Shooters are a small minority of the outdoors people who enjoy our lands. You would probably make comments about slob campers if they left garbage and stuff in a campsite you came to occupy. You would not be impressed at old dishwater, grease, poop, baby's diapers, cans, bottles, papers, plastic bags, oil changes from vehicles, rotten fish, emptied cigarete ashtrays, clothing, and a lot of other garbage left for others to see and contend with.

Is there any reason why broken clay targets, plastic wads, and empty hulls and boxes should be added to the above list?

We have enough slob campers. A few slob hunters can ruin a place for everyone.

Also, you might run up against an officious Park Warden, OPP, RCMP, Game Warden, or any other so called official who can take a dim view of littering.

That is exactly what you would be doing---littering public land.

Littering can lead to tickets. Tickets lead to court appearances. Court appearances lead to fines. (In this GREEN age and mentality, the fines for littering have increased enormously) The whole thing leads to your name in the local paper, and maybe on the local TV or radio station.

Not worth it. Find some private property you can use.
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Clays are not "biodegradeable, but they will weather away, and be grown over.

Don't worry about "toxicity", they just use a bit of tar (a fraction of a percent) to keep them together, and we all know how fast an old roadway will be grown over.

Obviously not that toxic eh? There is more tar in a square meter of asphalt than a clay shooter will put into the ground in an average lifetime.

Just USE BLACK CLAYS, so the remains don't become an eyesore!
 
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We pick up all our junk and whatever other junk there is on the top of the bank when we leave. If you want the wads they are about a 1000' feet down.


KTK
 
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