Cleaning a rifle in fixed butt Cadex chassis

apex survival said:
I'm looking at the Cadex Field Competition chassis for a LA Rem 700 and wondering if you would have to remove the butt to clean the rifle; or is there just enough room to sneak a rod by with the cheek piece all the way down?

Anyone here have this chassis on one of their rigs?

https://www.cadexdefence.com/products/chassis/field-competition/
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If you bought the fixed stock a couple years ago, you have to modify the butt plate to bore sight or clean it with the stock on it. You can drill a hole at the top of the slot.

If you buy a new Cadex fixed stock today you will find there is now a hole in the butt plate to allow bore sighting or a cleaning rod to pass through. I'm actually the guy who suggested it to Patrice at Cadex and they actually adopted it as part of the new design... cool huh.

You will need a very long cleaning rod though to clean it through the butt plate. I ordered and extra long cleaning rod from Dewey, but if you get 2 good sectional cleaning rods you can join segments from one to the other to get the extra length.
 
Magmalis said:
I just move the cheek piece and butt out of the way then move it back. It only takes a second.
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The top of the butt plate is higher than the center line of the bore, so to do this you would have to bend the cleaning rod around the butt plate and that leads to throat wear by rubbing the cleaning rod on the side of the rifling.

Its always best to clean directly along the axis of the bore, so bending the rod around the butt plate is a work around in a pinch, but not what I would recommend as the way to go.
 
North Island said:
I disassemble the cheek rest and recoil pad for cleaning. It's no problem.
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And how would you bore sight the rifle?

Put yourself in a situation... Out in the field or maybe at a match. You don't remember if your scope is one revolution high or not and you don't have a zero stop scope. How do you confirm your zero without looking through the bore and comparing to the scope?


Do you take the butt stock off for that too?

A small dental mirror perhaps?
 
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Shawn_338 said:
With a bore sight tool that goes on the end of the barrel would be my guess
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That would be my guess as well. No sense in over complicating things. It good to be prepared but you can “what if” it to death. You’re not launching the space shuttle.
 
Maple57 said:
And how would you bore sight the rifle?

Put yourself in a situation... Out in the field or maybe at a match. You don't remember if your scope is one revolution high or not and you don't have a zero stop scope. How do you confirm your zero without looking through the bore and comparing to the scope?


Do you take the butt stock off for that too?

A small dental mirror perhaps?
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I don't do any of those things ... I don't bore sight , I shoot paper at 25 yards or so, get close and go to a Hundred. When I go to a match I prepare ... and I mark my scopes. not trying to evade or be trite. I haven't had the best luck with bore sighting so I don't do it.
 
EC said:
That would be my guess as well. No sense in over complicating things. It good to be prepared but you can “what if” it to death. You’re not launching the space shuttle.
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Or just pull the bolt and look down the bore to see if it's pointing at paper ;)

Has always worked for me for sighting in a new setup at 100 yards. The cheapest and most simple way to do it. No attached gizmos that if you forget in your bore will blow your gun up.
 
kthomas said:
Or just pull the bolt and look down the bore to see if it's pointing at paper ;)

Has always worked for me for sighting in a new setup at 100 yards. The cheapest and most simple way to do it. No attached gizmos that if you forget in your bore will blow your gun up.
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So you don't have a Cadex with a fixed stock I see.

The butt plate on a Cadex is higher than the center line of the barrel... so you cannot look through the barrel from the rear. That is unless you remove the butt assembly.

I drilled a hole in the butt plate on mine so I could see through it and so I could clean the barrel without removing the assembly. As stated above, Cadex liked the idea and is now drilling them the same way, so this problem is gone on new rifles. If you have one that is more than about a year old, it wont have the hole, but you can drill it yourself easy enough.

Some guys don't like the high scope mount that requires the high butt plate, but it really is advantageous in the sense that it lowers the recoil impulse.
 
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Maple57 said:
So you don't have a Cadex with a fixed stock I see.

The butt plate on a Cadex is higher than the center line of the barrel... so you cannot look through the barrel. That is unless you remove the butt assembly.

I drilled a hole in the butt plate on mine so I could see through it and so I could clean the barrel without removing the assembly. As stated above, Cadex liked the idea and is now drilling them the same way, so this problem is gone on new rifles.

Some guys don't like the high scope mount that requires the high butt plate, but it really is advantageous in the sense that it lowers the recoil impulse.
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I don't have a Cadex.

But like you say, if there's a hole drilled in it for a cleaning rod, you should also be able to see down the bore. I'm glad they incorporated that design feature of yours, I think that's clever and a great addition.
 
Maple57 said:
So you don't have a Cadex with a fixed stock I see.

The butt plate on a Cadex is higher than the center line of the barrel... so you cannot look through the barrel from the rear. That is unless you remove the butt assembly.

I drilled a hole in the butt plate on mine so I could see through it and so I could clean the barrel without removing the assembly. As stated above, Cadex liked the idea and is now drilling them the same way, so this problem is gone on new rifles. If you have one that is more than about a year old, it wont have the hole, but you can drill it yourself easy enough.

Some guys don't like the high scope mount that requires the high butt plate, but it really is advantageous in the sense that it lowers the recoil impulse.
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Good Idea ... I think I will do mine :)
 
North Island said:
Good Idea ... I think I will do mine :)
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There's a vertical channel on the fixed part of the butt plate and you just drill the hole, the same diameter as that channel width and exactly at the end of it. So it's easy to line up.

The butt plate is actually made of some sort of plastic resin, so it's easy to drill.

Just drill slowly and keep your feed pressure light or it will grab and make the hole imperfect, particularly as it breaks out.
 
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