Cleaning, am I doing something wrong.

[welder179]

So the other day I went out to check the sight in on my CVA Wolf muzzleloader, shot about 8 or 10 sabots with two pellets of 777 and using traditions bore butter, then decided to do some "plinking" with some round ball and only using one pellet of powder and preseasoned patches. probably shot about 20-25 shots like that. Between each shot I would run a dry patch down the bore, called it quits for the day when I could feel the crud starting to build up closer to the breech.

So when I got home I gave the barrel (what I thought) was a very good cleaning. Removed the breech and scrubbed the barrel with a wire brush, using Traditions spray solvent and kept running patches untill they came out clean, about 15 patches. Inspected the bore and it appeared very clean and shiny. Ran a preseasoned patch down then put it away. then today for whatever reason I took the gun out of the safe and checked the bore and it looked like it was very very dirty again. So I cleaned it again the same way as listed above and it took probably 10 patches again untill it was clean. Then ran a patch with some bore butter on it instead of a preseasoned one.

So is there a step I was missing? Or something I was doing wrong?

 

[infideleggwelder]

I use soapy water, Then clean water WD40, and G96 in my cleaning process. I used Bore butter when i first started, but didn`t like the amount of rust that particular product seemed to create.

Soapy water to remove the fouling, and the salts it contains, and grease/wax/lube, clean water to rinse. WD 40 gets rid of the water and the G96 keeps the rust away. 96% alcohol is used to clean the G96 away before the next range

 

[saskbooknut]

Boiling water is the ultimate black powder or BP substitute cleaner, windshield washer fluid is not bad, followed by WD-40 and the protective oil or grease of choice, as previously stated.

 

[chasseur]

For the most part I use soapy boiling water but years ago I also used a solvent called g96 that worked great as well.One day I read the ingredients and all it was was water,detergent and rubbing alcohol so I use to make my own after that for use on the range between shots

 

[sean69]

So the other day I went out to check the sight in on my CVA Wolf muzzleloader, shot about 8 or 10 sabots with two pellets of 777 and using traditions bore butter, then decided to do some "plinking" with some round ball and only using one pellet of powder and preseasoned patches. probably shot about 20-25 shots like that. Between each shot I would run a dry patch down the bore, called it quits for the day when I could feel the crud starting to build up closer to the breech.

So when I got home I gave the barrel (what I thought) was a very good cleaning. Removed the breech and scrubbed the barrel with a wire brush, using Traditions spray solvent and kept running patches untill they came out clean, about 15 patches. Inspected the bore and it appeared very clean and shiny. Ran a preseasoned patch down then put it away. then today for whatever reason I took the gun out of the safe and checked the bore and it looked like it was very very dirty again. So I cleaned it again the same way as listed above and it took probably 10 patches again untill it was clean. Then ran a patch with some bore butter on it instead of a preseasoned one.

So is there a step I was missing? Or something I was doing wrong?

If it were black powder I would agree with soapy water - dish detergent works fine - hot or cold does not matter, too hot and you get flash rusting. .. but sounds like you are using a BP substitute - I've never used any of them, but I would roll with whatever the manufacturer suggests or something advertised as to be used to clean substitutes. From the sounds of it being dirty after a few days .... I would guess that you didn't quite get all the crud out of the corners of the lands and the oil you used leeched it out for you.

Maybe next time flush the bore with water, patch then leave your bore solvent to soak a little while then brush and patch again.... oh, and pick yourself up a face scraper

 

[bearhunter]

If it were black powder I would agree with soapy water - dish detergent works fine - hot or cold does not matter, too hot and you get flash rusting. .. but sounds like you are using a BP substitute - I've never used any of them, but I would roll with whatever the manufacturer suggests or something advertised as to be used to clean substitutes. From the sounds of it being dirty after a few days .... I would guess that you didn't quite get all the crud out of the corners of the lands and the oil you used leeched it out for you.

Maybe next time flush the bore with water, patch then leave your bore solvent to soak a little while then brush and patch again.... oh, and pick yourself up a face scraper

Water works just as well with BP SUBSTITUTES.

I never liked any of the substitutes or the pellets.

OP, you didn't miss anything and you didn't get any rust, which is what using the substitute is all about. Maybe you should rinse your bore with boiling water, after your normal cleaning?? From your description, it sounds like the residues and the bore protection you're using, may be interacting and creating a film in the bore.