Cleaning rods missing

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Why do so many late 19th century military rifles are missing their cleaning rods? Did different countries keep the cleaning rods for another purpose or or what
 
Sometimes they get launched of the end of the rifle under recoil, or they get removed and sold separately, or simply lost.
In the case of the long lee mk1 the clearing rods were disposed of as part of the mk1* upgrade and a pull through was issued.
A lot of opportunity for mistakes in a century
 
With the advent of smokeless powder, cleaning rods were removed for a number of reasons, one of which was conversion to a smaller caliber and the old rod was just too large in diameter to fit into the bore.

They were just added weight, and something that got caught on things, usually at the most inconvenient time.

When 19th century rifles went through FTR, cleaning rods were removed, and in many cases, the slot or hole they fit, were plugged/filled.

When the rifles became obsolete, and the cleaning rods were damaged, they weren't worth the effort/expense to replace them.

Many nations started going to separate cleaning kits, with screw together rods.

If you look online, there are likely still some folks making up obsolete cleaning rods for many different firearms.
 
British and French rifles had them removed. Initially they were cleaning or ‘clearing’ rods. Over time many nations switched to using things like pull throughs to avoid damaging the barrels (Russians adopted a cap on the muzzle as a alternative for example). Clearing rods specifically being needed early on due to poor metallurgy in early smokeless ammunition.

As time progressed the British and French saw less of a need for that and removed them from their rifles.

As to the black powder rifles and such, I suspect most of that is just civilian usage. Many don’t have the proper cleaning equipment to go with the rods anyways and so the cleaning rod just takes up space and is something else to lose so many take it out and proceed to lose it.
 
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