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I found this on another site, it might be a little extreme, but thought it could be useful for y'all to see.

It is important to know that if telescopic sight lens surfaces are not kept absolutely clean and free of mud, dust, water and oils, the lens surfaces will degrade the image to the point to where one cannot use the scope effectively. Try to avoid cleaning as even the slightest abrasive scrubbing will ultimately scratch the surfaces to where the coatings are worn off or damaged. At this point the lens is left bare and actual glass degradation takes place.

So what methods and techniques can be employed by the shooter to lessen this situation?

Here are a few tips to prevent ruining your favorite scope.
Keep the lenses covered with dust proof and waterproof caps.
If possible have clear optical glass covers made and put screw-on or flip-up covers over them.


If you absolutely have to clean dust off the lens surfaces, use an artists camel hair, or similar, brush with the handle cut off. Make or buy a dust-proof container for the brush and try to keep it in the buttstock hole or handy to where you can use it promptly and effectively.


Do not put water on your scope lenses to “wash off” the lens surfaces. Water will attack the lens coatings and the lenses. Lenses are hygroscopic and amorphic in nature, meaning they are composed of a certain percentage of water and the molecular structure is always moving. If you look at glass windows in ancient castle and buildings, you will notice the glass panes are sagging. Glass moves and therefore, gravity pulls the molecules of glass downward.


If you have to clean your lenses, use lint-free surgical Q-Tips (not the plastic ones) or swabs and fresh filtered acetone. Pour a little acetone in a ceramic or clean metal cup (acetone will melt plastic). Dip the swab in the acetone and make a single clean circular pass starting at the center of the lens. Throw the swab away (don’t dip back in the acetone because it will contaminate the acetone and the surface of the lens), and with another fresh swab, repeat the process until the lens is absolutely clean. Do not rub or scrub with a scrubbing motion, make a single pass with a clean acetone soaked swab and throw the swab away, repeat the operation.

Don’t do’s:
Don’t wipe lenses off with dry clothes, lens pencils or coarse brushes.
Don’t put water on the lens.
Don’t leave lenses uncovered.
Don’t put your fingerprints on the lenses.
Don’t take a scope from a very warm interior of a building to the outside where it is cold. A shift of forty degrees in temperature variation will overcome the dessicant in the scope (if there is any), fogging the scope.
 
I saw that as well, and can't help wondering how come I am still shooting some of my scopes after more than thirty years of doing everything wrong.

More often than not it is a handkerchief, shirt tail or TP that gets used with some saliva, creek water or snow, and they are still clear enough to shoot sub minute groups and late into the evening. I have used one Bausch & Lomb since 1971. :cool:

I guess in a perfect world one could follow that that procedure, but that's not where I have been hunting. :D

Ted
 
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Folks will do what they like but personally I avoid using any brushes on lens surfaces... they have a habit of picking up grease and depositing it on a clean lens surface - and can make matters worse - also they can rub grit against a lens surface as well.

ALWAYS use a blower (the rubber bulb syringe type) to get dust and grit off the lens surface before attacking it with anything else.

A piece of lense cleaning tissue or one of the new microfibre clothes designed for the job (or a piece of well washed and hand softened chamois) can be used to lightly "flick" stubborn dust after the blow treatment ... btw don't use the compressed air cans...some contain solvents that damage coatings and some are strong enough to remove coating.

I prefer isopropyl alcohol (90% or better) for cleaning the lens and don't care to use acetone. I have used "Q" tips in the past but based on other more "expert" observation that the cotton can contain wood fibres that are capable of scratching a lens... I now avoid them.

I prefer lens tissue and like the stuff that Swarovski provides with their optics. But Kodak is excellent. You can wrap them around a "Q" tip if you like which provides the "best" of both worlds I guess.

Optics do get dirty in the field...if you keep your greasy thumbs off the glass, usually all you really need is the rubber blower for 95% of the cleaning. They are cheap and easy to carry.

For the remaining 5% eg thumb prints to tree sap .. a small pack of len tissue and lens cleaner (or isopropyl alcohol or 80 proof vodka for the tree sap) and a small microfibre cloth all fit in a very small resealable "baggy"
 
I use the cleaning solution and cloth that my friendly optometrist recommends for glasses. Easy to find in most places and cheap too! He has also told me that a little dish soap and water works well with a soft clean cloth. Easy on the hands and easy on the lenses. I've been told that glass cleaners such as Windex are bad.

Good Luck
John
 
Why not? said:
I saw that as well, and can't help wondering how come I am still shooting some of my scopes after more than thirty years of doing everything wrong.

More often than not it is a handkerchief, shirt tail or TP that gets used with some saliva, creek water or snow, and they are still clear enough to shoot sub minute groups and late into the evening. I have used one Bausch & Lomb since 1971. :cool:

I guess in a perfect world one could follow that that procedure, but that's not where I have been hunting. :D

Ted

Guilty as charged too Ted :redface: I was a surveyor in my young years and have personally put some of the world's finest glass lenses on transits through treatment that amounted to pretty close to a full contact rugby game in steep, ugly terrain. It was either raining or snowing 24 7 it seemed. Bangs, falls, dunks in creeks you name it. I always made sure never to wipe any lense that was dry, and use the softest cloth or tissue we had on hand to keep the lenses "clean".

I do try though to be a little nicer to my rifle scopes these days. But, its still usually some TP or a tee shirt that does the job.
 
The little air blower is better than a brush. I would avoid acetone as it eats away at antireflective coatings over time. Do not use window cleaners. Microfibre cloths are great. Pick it up at any local optical shop and while you are there buy a bottle of antireflective lens cleaner. Use it on glasses, binos, cameras,scopes. Or if cheap, use a mixture of 3/4 water and a 1/4 vinegar. Won't wreck any coatings at all. As an optician I deal with antireflective coatings on lenses every day.
 
Caution!

I see a problem with Q-tips and acetone: make sure your Q-Tips are of the wooden variety or else you'll risk the plastic stick melt and cover your lens with a plastic residue.
Acetone is a bit strong, in my opinion. There are lot better specialized solutions using lauryl sulfate and other innocuous surfactants. And I NEVER, ever put cleaning liquid directly on the lens surface, it can reach the edge and seep-in at the junction of the retaining ring and give you a fit to dry the edges. I touch the bottle's tip to a rolled up lens tissue instead.
I use a Tornado blower bulb and Kodak lens tissue. A good, CLEAN microfiber cloth is also very good for light wiping between serious cleaning sessions. Keep it in a film container.
A high-quality red sable powder brush from any good make-up kit makes a great lens brush. Expect to pay a good price, it will last a life time.
A very good blower can be made from a soft rubber ear syringe. The tip is soft so you won't risk scratching your precious lens surface if you accidentally touch it with it.
BTW, find a suitable pouch to store your cleaning kit; you keep a first-aid kit with you? well, this is your scope's first aid kit, too.
PP.:)
 
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This is what Burris has on their website:
What is the proper method to clean scope lenses ?
Do not use any type of glass or flat surface cleaner ! DO NOT use finger nail polish remover or windex ! These types of cleaners have been known to remove the multi coatings on scope lenses . Burris recommends the following method which is used by our factory technicians .

Purchase a bottle of acetone . Acetone can be purchased at any full service drug store .
Remove dust or debris by using forced air or a soft brush .
Take a cotton swab and dip into the acetone . Starting in the middle of the dust free lens with the damp swab, move the swab in a circular motion working your way to the outside edge of the lens . As swab dries, discard it and continue with a fresh damp swab . Repeat the use of damp swabs until the lens surface is clean . Note: Without acetone, it is amazing how plain water and a clean lint free cloth works.
I like the soap and water or the solution from my optometrist.
Good Luck
John
 
If in doubt, Zeiss sells packages of disposable cloths soaked in cleaning solution that they recommend using on all their optical products. I saw them today for about 8 bucks for 20. Just my 2 cents.
 
TheCanuck said:
you'd think one part dish soap for 3 parts water would do the job well enough...

Soap and water mix does not hurt anything, however, it can leave a greasy film on your lenses which will be a little foggy.
Have to use hot water to get rid of this. Now on plastic lenses in glasses, heat and hot water can ruin your lenses. It's called crazing. The plastic lens expands but the coating doesn't. Now you have what looks like spider webbing all over the lenses. Hint- Do not leave glasses in a car. Major cause of wrecking your glasses. Binoculars and scopes do not get this as bad cause they use glass for optics and they do not expand with the heat as much as plastic.
 
TheCanuck said:
so water and vinegar or glasses cleaning solution does best?

Absolutely, Just remember not to spray directly on lens. Spray some on your microfibre cloth and wipe, after you have blown or brushed away excess dirt and dust
 
Why not? said:
dw,

Someone has posted that Windex will remove the coatings on eyeglasses.

Is that true?

Ted

Yes windex will remove coatings. Especialy on plastic lenses. I have seen it wreck glasses only used a few times and others after a months or a year. Some coatings are tougher than others
 
dw said:
The little air blower is better than a brush. I would avoid acetone as it eats away at antireflective coatings over time. Do not use window cleaners. Microfibre cloths are great. Pick it up at any local optical shop and while you are there buy a bottle of antireflective lens cleaner. Use it on glasses, binos, cameras,scopes. Or if cheap, use a mixture of 3/4 water and a 1/4 vinegar. Won't wreck any coatings at all. As an optician I deal with antireflective coatings on lenses every day.



I just spent 10 days bear hunting in the mud and rain. I do not use any lens coverings. My scopes had a combination of sand, mud and water stains.
Today I spent 2 hours cleaning 4 rifles; 3 of them have the dirty scopes.
I know I got some Hoppes #9 on the lens.

Would the water-vinegar trick be okay to get the residual solvent off the lens? :confused:
 
NEVER wipe a dry lens.

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In reading SALTYs post of his experiences while as a surveyor, there was one interesting comment he made: a very important one that probably was missed by 9 out of 10 of us.

He said ...."I always made sure never to wipe any lens that was dry...."

This is very important, as a bit of dirt on a DRY lens will scratch the lens or the coating if cleaned. Just like cleaning a lens with sandpaper. Look at how many car and truck windows are scratched from using just the wipers to take the dirt or dust off. That is why washer fluid is used.

I found this one out while touring a factory that made very high quality and expensive sniper scopes for the military. One of the technicians breathed on the scope, fogged it up, and cleaned it after doing so. I asked about it, and they told me that a lens should be cleaned when moist, NEVER dry.

Also, the material used to wipe the lens is important. Kleenex and shirt tails are BAAAAAAD. Any camera store sells packets of lens cleaning tissues, at a very reasonable price. You can also get a lens cleaning kit at a camera store. They are small and compact, and I keep one in the luggage during hunting trips.
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