Close the hatch about for using antique handguns as an alternative to freezing modern

100% you aren’t wrong about that.

Again though, if you’re a sloppy parent or gun owner in any respect, your kid might bring something dangerous and inappropriate to school. Hell it doesn’t even have to be malicious, I remember in the 2000s going to a garage sale and seeing antique pistols out in the open on a table (before I understood the laws).

I’m just saying, if you’re the type of person to leave your antique pistol out somewhere accessible, I imagine you’d leave all sorts of things accessible.

I have a hard time picturing someone leaving something that valuable out in the open.
 
There seems to be a real demand in the Export market
for these guns
So, if you have them , hopefully they stay in Canada
 
for those saying why worry about talking about converting antique handguns to calibers not on the no go list ; I strongly believe that is what lead to the RCMP re-interpreting the law so say the gun has to have been made in an antique caliber to be converted to another caliber not on the no go list and remain classed as an antique. I speak from experience and in the words of the RCMP technician; "you cannot create an antique from a 150 year old prohib). It would take very little effort for the RCMP to now say that all handguns including antiques are prohibited, not just the modern ones


cheers mooncoon
 
mooncoon said:
for those saying why worry about talking about converting antique handguns to calibers not on the no go list ; I strongly believe that is what lead to the RCMP re-interpreting the law so say the gun has to have been made in an antique caliber to be converted to another caliber not on the no go list and remain classed as an antique. I speak from experience and in the words of the RCMP technician; "you cannot create an antique from a 150 year old prohib). It would take very little effort for the RCMP to now say that all handguns including antiques are prohibited, not just the modern ones


cheers mooncoon
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That’s the point

People are so …
 
mauser71 said:
That’s the point

People are so …
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If that was the point you should probably have said it as he did, not cryptically like you did leaving most of us wondering what the hell you were trying to say. You were speaking in riddles. Even that last comment.

“People are so…” - What? Self interested? Ignorant on the subject? Edible but controversial.

As a matter of fact as it turns out I full heartedly agree with what it turns out you’re trying to say, just spit it out.

I’m against modifying antiques to supersede the restrictions on current handguns and regulatory laws in place today, as well.
 
MosinMan13 said:
If that was the point you should probably have said it as he did, not cryptically like you did leaving most of us wondering what the hell you were trying to say. You were speaking in riddles. Even that last comment.

“People are so…” - What? Self interested? Ignorant on the subject? Edible but controversial.

As a matter of fact as it turns out I full heartedly agree with what it turns out you’re trying to say, just spit it out.

I’m against modifying antiques to supersede the restrictions on current handguns and regulatory laws in place today, as well.
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This is what i think but too much angry about situation
 
mauser71 said:
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People are so …
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I hate to break it to you but the long term objective is to ban ALL civilian firearms ownership in Canada. RCMP gets to make up it's own "interpretations" of gun laws and their decisions essentially carry legal weight. They are coming for everything anyway, so I don't see what you are getting upset about in particular.
 
StandardIssue said:
I hate to break it to you but the long term objective is to ban ALL civilian firearms ownership in Canada. RCMP gets to make up it's own "interpretations" of gun laws and their decisions essentially carry legal weight. They are coming for everything anyway, so I don't see what you are getting upset about in particular.
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Exactly, this right here.

Not to mention OP is focused on a “what if?” that applies to every other avenue.

NR and R owners could cut down barrels to illegal lengths, improperly store their firearms, modify to illegal cartridges. Hell there’s enough videos demonstrating how you can in fact fire .50 bmg out of a 12 gauge shotgun.

They want everything we have, and any one of us could jeopardize the entire balance of that at any time. The data we have today says we’re being responsible, even the most recent data on safe firearm storage, shows we’re still doing as great a job as ever.

This thread is basic fear-mongering
 
I can't speak to others motives in this thread. Fear mongering may be their intent. I wouldn't know.

My intent here is to simply point out how precarious our position is. All of us need keep this in mind. IMHO

I have tens of thousands $ tied up in this hobby (and it is a hobby for me) and their monitery value will drop to almost 0 should the antis get their way.
I'm not hiding my hobby but I think it is only allowed to exist because,
1; It's a very small segment of firearms in general.
2; The public, in general, think that if ammo is obsolete it is unobtainable. No ammo equal no threat.
3; Changing the laws takes work and influence. An OIC, on the other hand, is relatively simple and easy.

There needs to be public up-roar for politicians to act.
The schoolyard case would (if worked right by antis) provide that up-roar. Loaded or not.
 
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Pete04 said:
I can't speak to others motives in this thread. Fear mongering may be their intent. I wouldn't know.

My intent here is to simply point out how precarious our position is. All of us need keep this in mind. IMHO

I have tens of thousands $ tied up in this hobby (and it is a hobby for me) and their monitery value will drop to almost 0 should the antis get their way.
I'm not hiding my hobby but I think it is only allowed to exist because,
1; It's a very small segment of firearms in general.
2; The public, in general, think that if ammo is obsolete it is unobtainable. No ammo equal no threat.
3; Changing the laws takes work and influence. An OIC, on the other hand, is relatively simple and easy.

There needs to be public up-roar for politicians to act.
The schoolyard case would (if worked right by antis) provide that up-roar. Loaded or not.
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That definitely sums it up, and it is a genuine thing to be conscious about, even proactively working against it.

I think a good 4rth point for consideration is still the value of them, because they’re essentially museum relics at this point they’re mostly priceless and overpriced by any standard of measure. The school show and tell example still falls on somebody being careless with a priceless/valuable/irreplaceable antique firearm. Personally, I keep mine more locked up than the modern firearms I own, simply because I cannot just go to the store and buy another, and even if I found one, typically they seem to only gain value over time so I know Id be paying even more than my initial investment to replace them.

On that I suppose some people aren’t as careful or considerate as I am, but I’d like to assume others are at least conscious of their investment/value sitting in that antique. Perhaps I would even think even the average village idiot knows better than to keep a $2-10k pistol in something more secure than a shoebox or a hook on the wall.
 
Part of the inflated value for many antiques(not all) in Canada is the fact you for some reason don't need a licence to own functioning antique firearms and some people use the fact they are not considered firearms to carry them around for possible self defence use in the bush.

I'm sure if I had tens of thousands in antiques, I would be just as concerned about them as I am about the tens of thousands in non antique pistols that have with no value today due to ideological BS.

I don't understand the people that think they can hide in the shadows and not be seen when the enemy has all the tech to see in the dark and seemingly endless resources to pursue ideological BS theft campaigns against their citizens and are actively engaged in just that.
 
mauser71 said:
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It was too late when the first arms owners made the first concessions.

In fact it's not even about arms in general, it's about property rights and self defense rights.

Leftist red herrings all over the place confuse those who can't see through the fog.

Edit - maybe a better way to put it is that there is a thick fog of red herrings thrown out by leftists / statists that confuses most Canadian firearms owners.
 
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It really doesn't matter, they are coming for everything regardless of if you give them an excuse or not. Appealing to authority is not an option and never has been. Live free or die
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They can come, dosn`t mean they`ll get, Canada has more real problems to get your titties twisted out of shape over than firearms. There are far more licensed gun owners and guns in Canada then
the Gov`t wants us to believe. 20 million registered firearms, so that`d be R and Prohibs?, god only knows how many antiques, squirreled away artillery and hand gernades, hidden WW bring backs... Then there`s NR firearms. Canadians could take back Canada if we really wanted to, I guess we really don`t care that much.
We`re a nation of #####ers and moaners and the feds know this, that`s why they`ll always win, no real opposition.
We had a chance to fight back in Ottawa last year, but they brought out the horses and we left! Pussies, every last one of us!!!! The world was appalled...........
 
Pete04 said:
Check out antique storage. Basically needs to be unloaded.
Any kid/teen could have access and may be thinking more of show and tell to friends at school rather than criminal intent.

Hand gun in a school yard doesn't need to be loaded. Anemic as, some claim, that may be, it will certainly raise a sh!t storm with karen and crew.

I've owned dozens of antiques and restricteds over the years. My own family can't see any real difference between a Swiss M1882, French M1892 and a S&W M10 Victory made in the '30's.
I know for a fact that the toronto police service here have no idea of the difference and in fact don't care.
The chief firearms officer of tps could not recognize a Webley MkI in a case I'm familiar with. The Chief Firearms Officer!
What do you figure the school principal will conclude??

So I'm hoping this never comes to be but surly folks can see how this could happen.
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Basically what it boils down to is, don't be a sloppy ####ing gun owner.
 
shiloh87 said:
They can come, dosn`t mean they`ll get, Canada has more real problems to get your titties twisted out of shape over than firearms. There are far more licensed gun owners and guns in Canada then
the Gov`t wants us to believe. 20 million registered firearms, so that`d be R and Prohibs?, god only knows how many antiques, squirreled away artillery and hand gernades, hidden WW bring backs... Then there`s NR firearms. Canadians could take back Canada if we really wanted to, I guess we really don`t care that much.
We`re a nation of #####ers and moaners and the feds know this, that`s why they`ll always win, no real opposition.
We had a chance to fight back in Ottawa last year, but they brought out the horses and we left! Pussies, every last one of us!!!! The world was appalled...........
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Sure. Unless you're the one they happen to be aimed at. - dan
 
infidel29 said:
Basically what it boils down to is, don't be a sloppy ####ing gun owner.
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This is the essence of it, and if you see something say something. I had to get on a buddy of mine for a bunch of sloppy crap he was pulling, it was awkward and got heated but ultimately at the end of the day, no matter what your specific interest in firearms are, we’re all ambassadors to our lifestyle, the way we each choose to compose ourselves collectively represents the whole. Each time one of us screws up it puts another nail in the coffin.

I’ve turned down plenty of willing prospective buyers on my Antiques simply because I got a bad feeling about them or they didn’t have enough rep on the site. Perhaps that’s silly but I’d rather not be reason they have one more article to write about us, not in that light.
 
MosinMan13 said:
This is the essence of it, and if you see something say something. I had to get on a buddy of mine for a bunch of sloppy crap he was pulling, it was awkward and got heated but ultimately at the end of the day, no matter what your specific interest in firearms are, we’re all ambassadors to our lifestyle, the way we each choose to compose ourselves collectively represents the whole. Each time one of us screws up it puts another nail in the coffin.

I’ve turned down plenty of willing prospective buyers on my Antiques simply because I got a bad feeling about them or they didn’t have enough rep on the site. Perhaps that’s silly but I’d rather not be reason they have one more article to write about us, not in that light.
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Thanks
 
To the o.p.: Have you been hanging out with Kamlooky? I read your post at least three times & figure I interpreted about 2/3 of it...;)

If anyone wants to modify their original antiques to a current caliber, who am I to tell them different? It would hold less value in my opinion; but I am guilty of having a sewer pipe, parts gun restored back to an almost as new shooter. Albeit, to an original configuration as possible. The commies, neo-liberals & over prescribed soccer moms want all your guns taken away. As well as your V8 sports car, your motorcycle, your dog, cause it looks vicious and anything else that scares them & doesn't fit in their own little safe zone. These kind of idiots never stop being offended & scared, so I wouldn't loose any sleep over it.
 
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