Coach Gun with Exposed Hammers

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I am looking to maybe get into Cowboy Action Shooting and need a
(and want) coach gun with exposed hammers. Who makes one?
I know Norico does and I won’t own it as it’s a total POS. What are my other options?

Thanks in advance.

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Bronco boy, I hope you don't mind me butting in ........a double barrel with exposed hammers is a def. handicap in cowboy action(you may know more about it then me). Opening the action,loading the gun, closing gun and then having to #### both hammers will slow you down. Some old double hammer guns require you to #### or at least half #### before you open the gun. A double gun with internal hammers cuts out that step.
 
ben hunchak said:
Bronco boy, I hope you don't mind me butting in ........a double barrel with exposed hammers is a def. handicap in cowboy action(you may know more about it then me). Opening the action,loading the gun, closing gun and then having to #### both hammers will slow you down. Some old double hammer guns require you to #### or at least half #### before you open the gun. A double gun with internal hammers cuts out that step.
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I hear ya but I'm not really interested in being competitive; I just want to maximize the old west feel and experience and I have always wanted a coach gun with exposed hammers.
 
I got a Baikal coachgun with 18.5'' barrels and interchangeable chokes in 12G. The one I have has walnut wood and functioning hammers but they make them with non functioning hammers and fixed chokes too. I really like mine for hunting, it works great in the deep brush for grouse.

Kicks like hell with slugs though.
 
Bronco Boy, if you're going for external hammers, under SASS rules, it looks like you are leaning towards the "Classic Cowboy" catagory:)
As mentioned, it ain't fast, but it is more authentic and it sure is fun.:D
Have a look at the SASS rules for the firearms and dress criteria and that may influence your final decision.
Many posses are just folks having fun and who don't want to get into IPSIC speed shooting, while some folks do both.
I've shot a Norinco external hammer coach gun for two years with no problems, after I filed and honed off the the sharp edges on the hammers.
Hammerless shotguns were originally allowed to be used, under SASS rules, because of the lack of external hammered shotguns that could be safely used.
The same thinking also allowed the 1897 pump actions to be used although they came in at the end of the era CAS portrays.
In any event, welcome to the sport.
 
The Cold Lake Kid said:
Bronco Boy, if you're going for external hammers, under SASS rules, it looks like you are leaning towards the "Classic Cowboy" catagory:)
As mentioned, it ain't fast, but it is more authentic and it sure is fun.:D
Have a look at the SASS rules for the firearms and dress criteria and that may influence your final decision.
Many posses are just folks having fun and who don't want to get into IPSIC speed shooting, while some folks do both.
I've shot a Norinco external hammer coach gun for two years with no problems, after I filed and honed off the the sharp edges on the hammers.
Hammerless shotguns were originally allowed to be used, under SASS rules, because of the lack of external hammered shotguns that could be safely used.
The same thinking also allowed the 1897 pump actions to be used although they came in at the end of the era CAS portrays.
In any event, welcome to the sport.
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Thanks for the info. It's not the reliability of the Norico that concerns me; not really much that can go wrong with this design. I just can't get my head around using a Chinese made product in a Old West setting and the fit & finish and craftsmanship of all Noricos is pathetic. I will never own a Norico, period.

It looks like Remington makes a coach gun with external hammers; not if I can only find one.
 
The Rossi is definitely work keeping an eye out for. It's a true sidelock gun, unlike the others, and the one that I had:( was finished beautifully, nice and tight, perfect bluing. The Baikal, which is the one that Remington has put its name on, is decent for the money, and as mentioned can be had with either fully-functioning hammers, or ones that are actually just cocking levers. I have one of the latter that is equipped with after-market X-full chokes and added-on fibre optic sights that is my favourite turkey gun. Not best, but favourite to use.

Epps recently had a bunch of these guns on their website. I seem to recall reading that they will no longer be sold under the Baikal name, but will be available exclusively from Remington. Maybe someone can correct or confirm this.

John
 
Chinese made product in an "Old West" setting...

Bronco Boy said:
...I just can't get my head around using a Chinese made product in a Old West setting...
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"They say there is a dead Chinese man, for every mile of track."

"That's what they say."
 
Here's the Cadillac of coach guns, the Pioneer Arms Corp.

http://www.pioneer-pac.com/company.html

Don't think it's imported in Canada though, the gun is made in Poland and has the classic look of vintage doubles.


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I use a Rossi 'overland' double barrel in SASS. It is slow. Gobles in London, ON has one for sale. It has been there for a while, may be able to negotiate a good price.
This is my two cents, AGE
 
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