Cold weather shooting question

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Just wondering how much your having to tweak your scope/sites from warm weather to cold weather. Took my buttler creak heavy barrel 10/22 to the range yesterday and the temperature was hovering around 0. The gun was sited in to shoot at 100 yards in the summer, yesterday I was shooting about 10 inches below dead center and and the rounds were hitting about 3 inches above dead center and about 3 inches to the left at 100 yards. Same ammo from then to now, 333.

 
Your gun has lost it's zero. You need to re-sight it in. Nothing to do with the weather.

Cold won't effect your accuracy that bad, if at all I've never had to sight in for different temps.
 
Your gun has lost it's zero. You need to re-sight it in. Nothing to do with the weather.

Cold won't effect your accuracy that bad, if at all I've never had to sight in for different temps.
When it gets really cold out say -30 or colder, accuracy with rimfire rifles starts to really falter. (groups open wide up)
That's why the Russians and the Fins were the first to make biathalon .22LR ammunition specifically for use in the winter sport shooting.
 
From an internet website giving advice to biathlon shooters:

QuoteFor many years, I usedCCI Standard velocity ammunition in my Anshutz 1827B for most of my races and shooting practice. Though many fellow biathletes complained that CCI shot poorly in their rifles, I had experimented with CCI match grade, Federal, Remington, RWS, and several others which elude me at the moment, and quite frankly any difference in the groups I was shooting slightly favored the Standard velocity CCI, and in addition, both the Remington and Federal would occasionally jam my rifle. I attributed the slight difference in grouping to the difference in muzzle velocity, and my poor follow-through. Since CCI Standard velocity was the cheapest ammunition I could find locally, I used it almost exclusively.

Occasionally I would have a Winter Biathlon race where I would have trouble zeroeing the rifle - it would refuse to group, with most of the shots not even hitting the paper. This was usually in Colorado, and since from my window seat on the plane I have seen the luggage handlers literally toss my rifle in a high arc onto the conveyor belt, I just assumed that the rough handling somehow knocked the sight way off. But when I got back to California, the rifle would inevitably shoot just fine. I figured at the time maybe it got jarred hard enough on the trip back to undo whatever was wrong. Yeah, right! This happened several times, but each time it seemed that there was a good reason it wouldn't group - I was late to the range and rushed, or very tired from combining a business trip and a race, or there was a lot of wind. At one point, I was thinking maybe it was the altitude - the Colorado venue is nearly two miles higher than my home range, and two thousand feet higher than Auburn Ski Club (ASC) where I've done most of my winter Biathlons. It wasn't until I went back for Biathlon Nationals at Lake Placid one year that I finally found the root cause.

As before, I couldn't seem to bring my shots onto the paper during zeroeing. But this time I wasn't tired, I wasn't rushed, I wasn't at altitude, and there was no wind. I was complaining at dinner that evening to some of our group about how my rifle sight seemed to be non-functional, when someone at the table behind us (I don't know what his name was, or what club he was affiliated with) turned around and asked me what kind of ammunition I was using. I replied CCI, and proceeded to say that I had run experiments with my rifle, and that the CCI ammunition was just fine - that couldn't be the problem. He then asked me where we were from, and I replied California. He then asked me what temperature we did most of our events at, and I replied 70's for Bay Area events, and 30's to 40's for our winter events at ASC. He then said, "I think I know your problem. I've got some RWS ammunition in the trunk I can give you - try that." Sure enough, the next day, my rifle was shooting the tight groups that I was used to. The fellow told me that the ammunition was packed so that it would burn more consistently at low temperatures. The trade-off - lower muzzle velocity. Bingo! Both the Lake Placid event, and the Colorado events that I had had trouble at, were run at temperatures pretty close to -20 Celsius - quite a bit colder than our California events. Another lesson learned.
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The only thing I could think of that threw zero off is when I cleaned my 10/22 last (after everytime I shoot it) I might have tightened the screw holding the receiver down tighter then it usually is. Besides that from what you guys are saying, it was not cold enough to make a difference that sever.
 
Hi,
I shot biathlon for a few years in Alberta. Used a top notch rifle (Anschutz 54 in the 1410 configuration), but learned that cold temperatures really affected group size, as mentioned. Near 0 C, most standard velocity match ammo like T-22 was fine, but during matches held closer to minus 20 C, I found I had to either use the special cold temperature Lapua rounds or (my rifle's favorite) Eley 10X (red box). With anything else, the group size really expanded at cold temperatures, and the group centre shifted somewhat. Both brands of premium rounds were too pricey for normal practice, but splurging on a couple of boxes for race days was fine for sighting in and competing.
 
I have noticed the difference at cold temperatures also. Polar Biathlon sings in my 40X when it is really cold, while run-of-the-mill stuff is all over. Regards, Eagleye.
 
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