cheetah_frodo
Member
- Location
- Vancouver Island
I have known Mooncoon for many years and believe me, he could make a catridge for the great gun of St Petersburgh if the rascal was a breech-loader![Just don't ask him about his hairy adopted son!]
Collecting and shooting antiques
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tactical870
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Buckhorn, Ontario
I've been an avid shooter and hunter since I was old enough to hoist a rifle to my shoulder. Only recently I was given an old .32 rimfire white star revolver by a family member. Now I own 5 .32s and a 38 rim.... Tons of fun but hard to get ammo for.... I love the fact that I can actually shoot these guns (when I can get ammo) without the hassle of a resrticted gun.... And it's cool that my favorite gun is 134 years old.....
I will draw a parallel here in the use of antique firearms and antique military uniforms.
Having collected both for nearly 30 years now I prefer A) not to shoot my antique firearms, since there are far better built reproductions on the market...and B) when it comes to wearing original antique military uniforms, I will not, for the same reason...there are plenty of sources for accurately new made materiel that is virtually indistinguishable from originals.
Anyone who wants to shoot their antique firearms, go right ahead, as long as you are honest when you decide to sell them. Ensure they are not damaged, or have bent, stretched, broken, or cracked frames, barrels or parts etc. If they do, disclose this to the buyer.
I have to agree, that discretion is best in this case...the least attention we get from the uneducated public and politicians the better it will be for ALL of us.
So...instead of bragging how many times you shot your 16.7 mm Nambutoo, double action, twin barreled, Rhino Destroyer...it would be best to revel in the clouds of smoke it produces and the earth shaking thundering boom that causes weathermen in the next province to spill their mocha grande espresso, screaming EARTHQUAKE!!!
Having collected both for nearly 30 years now I prefer A) not to shoot my antique firearms, since there are far better built reproductions on the market...and B) when it comes to wearing original antique military uniforms, I will not, for the same reason...there are plenty of sources for accurately new made materiel that is virtually indistinguishable from originals.
Anyone who wants to shoot their antique firearms, go right ahead, as long as you are honest when you decide to sell them. Ensure they are not damaged, or have bent, stretched, broken, or cracked frames, barrels or parts etc. If they do, disclose this to the buyer.
I have to agree, that discretion is best in this case...the least attention we get from the uneducated public and politicians the better it will be for ALL of us.
So...instead of bragging how many times you shot your 16.7 mm Nambutoo, double action, twin barreled, Rhino Destroyer...it would be best to revel in the clouds of smoke it produces and the earth shaking thundering boom that causes weathermen in the next province to spill their mocha grande espresso, screaming EARTHQUAKE!!!
Where/How can I get an antique revolver/rifle from the states?
I thought all gun related items are a no-no now to send between our countries. (I was refused shipment on a B-square scope mount for that reason)
If I can indeed order an antique status 'Webley', does anyone recommend a dealer in the states?
Thanks for any info.
I thought all gun related items are a no-no now to send between our countries. (I was refused shipment on a B-square scope mount for that reason)
If I can indeed order an antique status 'Webley', does anyone recommend a dealer in the states?
Thanks for any info.
Tyockell18
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Not really sure.
Antique guns are deemed none firearms in the U.S. Its fairly easy to ship them up here. They have to be shipped USPS with a declaration form stating its an antique firearm.
Fellow members do it all the time.
tactical870
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Buckhorn, Ontario
Recently someone posted an abbreviated list of sections of the criminal code/firearms act as they pertain to antiques. I can't seem to find it right now though. Anyone able to repost that? I figure that should be in this sticky....
prescribed. enjoy.Woman at all simmons gun shop in hamilton says so. I know better but i didn't want to get into a debate. I read the regulations. No such law. I am open to correction with proof. anyone? only law i know is that you need a license to buy ammunition. My question is do you need it to posses ammunition if you make it yourself?
I picked up a nice Husqvarna 8x58 Rolling block-made in 1876-10 years before my grandfather was born... absolutely beautiful....I got another one in 22 short -cutest little .22 I've ever seen.Now I want to make an 8x58 RB carbine for deer hunting next fall...I have no qualms about it-these military rifles were ''sporterized'' 100 years ago.
Long Range Canuck
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Athabasca Alberta aka God's Country
I am new to the Antique firearms and they have really grabbed me. I have modern replicas that are restricted as well as original cartridge antique pistols. I have the privalage of owning my own land that I can shoot on (non restricted). What bothers me as a new to Antique firearms owner is the mistery and multiple beliefs on what is right or wrong on discharging an antique firearm. Where you can do it and what the regulation is around it.
I know exactly where, when and how I must use my restricted, and non restricted firearms. The laws and regulations are very specific. When it comes to antiques there is way to much room for misinterpretation and the potential with this misinterpretation to lead to an incident or a very unconfortable interview with an uninformed law enforcement officer or a miss informed owner of an antique firearm.
A L.E. friend of mine said just because it is Legal, doesnt make it right. And in my opinion I have to agree with him 100%.
What I like in this thread is that many have shown the attitude of responcible gun ownership and etiquette when dealing with Antique firearms and an uneducated public or LE official.
Being responcible gun owners there are many of us that are keeping copies of the RCMP info page, SOR and the fireams Criminal code papers and our Antique status letters with us when using antique firearms to assist Law Enforcement officers that may question seeing an individual discharge or have in possesion a hand gun without any registration Cert or ATT for that particular fire arm. We take the ownus on ourselfs to compile the information and do our utmost to be ready to difuse any potential negative outcome, and some of what we may be doing is in my opinion at this time based on our interpretation of what is legal based on our research into the Criminal Code and SOR.
I guess at the end of the day and my long post what I am trying to get at is maybe what we should do is petition the CFC/RCMP/CFO's to put together a document that accompanies or is part of the Antiques status letters that specifies in simple English/French
1. That the firearm is deamed as a "nonfirearm"
2. may be discharged anywhere a non restricted firearm can be discharged.
3. If it is a pistol, falls under the same regulations as a long gun.
etc. etc.
This is a simple piece of paper you would have on you to show anyone, or any LE officer doing his due dilligence in investigating that it is good to go and no issues. Saves us alot of stress and unknown speculation. Saves the LE officer alot of stress trying to figure out an unknown, and is as valid as any ATT/ATC/Wilderness Carry permit or PAL/POL
It keeps us safe when shooting, It saves alot of LE's time when its cut and dry and they can carry on with more important issues. As well as it takes alot of confusion out of the Antiques status that could jepordize the safety of us and others when there is absoulutely no intent to do so.
I realy enjoy guns of all types, I enjoy shooting them on the range, hunting, and in competition. I love the ability to be able to shoot on my land and many other aspects of responcible firearms ownership.
I have a big issue with the hole the gov't has left open with the antique status and the amount of undefined "grey" area's that if challenged, could lead to an ugly court battle or resources wasted as Law Enforcement personel perform thier due dilligance in investigating an individual with an antique handgun or rifle in what should be defined as a clearly legal or illegal act.
Just my opinion and Gov't rant. Happy shooting.
I know exactly where, when and how I must use my restricted, and non restricted firearms. The laws and regulations are very specific. When it comes to antiques there is way to much room for misinterpretation and the potential with this misinterpretation to lead to an incident or a very unconfortable interview with an uninformed law enforcement officer or a miss informed owner of an antique firearm.
A L.E. friend of mine said just because it is Legal, doesnt make it right. And in my opinion I have to agree with him 100%.
What I like in this thread is that many have shown the attitude of responcible gun ownership and etiquette when dealing with Antique firearms and an uneducated public or LE official.
Being responcible gun owners there are many of us that are keeping copies of the RCMP info page, SOR and the fireams Criminal code papers and our Antique status letters with us when using antique firearms to assist Law Enforcement officers that may question seeing an individual discharge or have in possesion a hand gun without any registration Cert or ATT for that particular fire arm. We take the ownus on ourselfs to compile the information and do our utmost to be ready to difuse any potential negative outcome, and some of what we may be doing is in my opinion at this time based on our interpretation of what is legal based on our research into the Criminal Code and SOR.
I guess at the end of the day and my long post what I am trying to get at is maybe what we should do is petition the CFC/RCMP/CFO's to put together a document that accompanies or is part of the Antiques status letters that specifies in simple English/French
1. That the firearm is deamed as a "nonfirearm"
2. may be discharged anywhere a non restricted firearm can be discharged.
3. If it is a pistol, falls under the same regulations as a long gun.
etc. etc.
This is a simple piece of paper you would have on you to show anyone, or any LE officer doing his due dilligence in investigating that it is good to go and no issues. Saves us alot of stress and unknown speculation. Saves the LE officer alot of stress trying to figure out an unknown, and is as valid as any ATT/ATC/Wilderness Carry permit or PAL/POL
It keeps us safe when shooting, It saves alot of LE's time when its cut and dry and they can carry on with more important issues. As well as it takes alot of confusion out of the Antiques status that could jepordize the safety of us and others when there is absoulutely no intent to do so.
I realy enjoy guns of all types, I enjoy shooting them on the range, hunting, and in competition. I love the ability to be able to shoot on my land and many other aspects of responcible firearms ownership.
I have a big issue with the hole the gov't has left open with the antique status and the amount of undefined "grey" area's that if challenged, could lead to an ugly court battle or resources wasted as Law Enforcement personel perform thier due dilligance in investigating an individual with an antique handgun or rifle in what should be defined as a clearly legal or illegal act.
Just my opinion and Gov't rant. Happy shooting.
