Attilathecanuk
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That is a beautiful 1911.
Colt 1911 navy
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If you fix up and paint a 57 chev its still a 57 chev google Colt Navy prices in the US refinish to a proper spec they start at seven thousand . If it was not damaged I would have left it alone .COLT Navy's range from 1500 a bucket of rust to 15000. this gun falls in the middle and I know of no Colt Navy's in Canada... I could always change it into a race gun or have it nickel plated with target sites sites ...LOL
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Cars and guns, apples and oranges.
With due respect, you posted your pictures to show the gun off and garner comments. It was a very nice and rare gun, but I believe that if you have a collectible gun in used, honest WW2 condition, and the same gun right next to it that has been refinished, the original will garner more from collectors. That's been my experience. Refinished guns sell for less than original finishes.
In any case, it is your gun, you are collecting it and as such are free to do what makes you happy. Enjoy!
By the way, what kind of bluing is that and who did the work?
With due respect, you posted your pictures to show the gun off and garner comments. It was a very nice and rare gun, but I believe that if you have a collectible gun in used, honest WW2 condition, and the same gun right next to it that has been refinished, the original will garner more from collectors. That's been my experience. Refinished guns sell for less than original finishes.
In any case, it is your gun, you are collecting it and as such are free to do what makes you happy. Enjoy!
By the way, what kind of bluing is that and who did the work?
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I am also curious as to who did such a beautiful job
live4therut
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Not a chance, it's only original once. Can't compare guns to cars as restorable value not the same ball park, hell not even close to the same game. It still is a rare gun by all means but lost all collectibility to serious collectors. Even before the refinish it had issues on top of the slide, if it was a 100% gun it would of sold when you first listed on the ee
The back site fixed by hole filled in weld and hand filed and hand polish no numbers recut or recut by laser. So all numbers and pat dates are original The finish is Rust bluing done five or six times or more to get desired finished all by hand. Cured in a sweat box and light bulb . Close to what was used in 1912 guns
The gun had damage to slide and little or no blue left and never was presented as a high end collector If the slide did not need repair Would have left it alone .The Colt is a Original Model US Navy that has been restored correctly and As I said before these guns correctly restored sell for about 7 thousand US Dollar But this is not USA so its value is about half that
The value before repair is about the same as now Just looks a lot better and was not repaired to deceive any buyers in the future This post is open to the public .. For the record I have never seen another Model US Navy In Canada.. Gun was repaired by Gun Smith Leo Cormier from New Brunswick who spent 100 hrs plus to make her shine again
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The gun had damage to slide and little or no blue left and never was presented as a high end collector If the slide did not need repair Would have left it alone .The Colt is a Original Model US Navy that has been restored correctly and As I said before these guns correctly restored sell for about 7 thousand US Dollar But this is not USA so its value is about half that
The value before repair is about the same as now Just looks a lot better and was not repaired to deceive any buyers in the future This post is open to the public .. For the record I have never seen another Model US Navy In Canada.. Gun was repaired by Gun Smith Leo Cormier from New Brunswick who spent 100 hrs plus to make her shine again
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Can you show a refinished navy 1911 that sold in the US for $7k? Lol. I don't believe it.
Seems ridiculous. A refinished gun is a huge problem to a high end gun collector.
live4therut
CGN frequent flyer
Not only that were not in the US and that gun could never go back there. It is what it is now, a rare refinished shooter. How did the blueing take to the top of the slide where it was damaged? Unless it was re heat treated that probably stands out too or did it take the same blue as the rest of the pistol? Can we see the top of the slide?
I have to agree with the others. Refinished absolutely ruins collector value. It was better before.
Same as that once fantastic duv41 that was listed on the EE for a long time. That was an absolutely beautiful original example until the end of the barrel was reblued and ruined it's collector value.
Same as that once fantastic duv41 that was listed on the EE for a long time. That was an absolutely beautiful original example until the end of the barrel was reblued and ruined it's collector value.
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This Colt 1911 U.S. Navy Contract Mfg.d 1913, serial number 41775, We think the Colt was re-blued in mid-80's by Turnbull Restoration Co. The frame has a ‘’I’’ marking, The slide is from a earlier 1912 Colt , has a “H” marking, Since the slide is a earlier model 1912 that should not be a problem. This is a navy slide with the Frame serial numbered issued to the U. S. Navy. The barrel is correct has the letters ‘’ H ’’ & ‘’P’’ on hood with ‘’ 5 ‘’ on the bottom of the barrel in front of the lug, The correct Magazine with lanyard loop. It also has a later spring guild should be a pointed edge one But we must remember as these Colts 103 years old where disassembled for cleaning , many parts were picked up my mistake during reassembly The grips are correct . It is a true 1913 production Navy contract. It has seen very little use. It still has a lot of original finish and very little wear. A Colt letter is included The pictures do not justified the quality of workmanship I can not capture the brush blur finish All FFL fees apply when required, C&R License accepted. This is still a good representative U.S. Navy Contract manufactured model 1911 pistol
This pistol is at GUN BROKER selling for Seven thousand
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576587042
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Charlotte, NC 28227-8555
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This Colt 1911 U.S. Navy Contract Mfg.d 1913, serial number 41775, We think the Colt was re-blued in mid-80's by Turnbull Restoration Co. The frame has a ‘’I’’ marking, The slide is from a earlier 1912 Colt , has a “H” marking, Since the slide is a earlier model 1912 that should not be a problem. This is a navy slide with the Frame serial numbered issued to the U. S. Navy. The barrel is correct has the letters ‘’ H ’’ & ‘’P’’ on hood with ‘’ 5 ‘’ on the bottom of the barrel in front of the lug, The correct Magazine with lanyard loop. It also has a later spring guild should be a pointed edge one But we must remember as these Colts 103 years old where disassembled for cleaning , many parts were picked up my mistake during reassembly The grips are correct . It is a true 1913 production Navy contract. It has seen very little use. It still has a lot of original finish and very little wear. A Colt letter is included The pictures do not justified the quality of workmanship I can not capture the brush blur finish All FFL fees apply when required, C&R License accepted. This is still a good representative U.S. Navy Contract manufactured model 1911 pistol
This pistol is at GUN BROKER selling for Seven thousand
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It's a pretty restored gun, but it's not worth $7K now, and not ever. Maybe $3K to someone who cannot afford one that has not been refinished. I've never heard of Leo Cormier, but I've heard of Turnbull. That matters too.
I did not say my gun was worth seven thousand I said half that Bottom line the gun was a mess and has been restored and they do not exist in Canada I use to buy Colts for 500 bucks at one time .This gun has no were to go but up in price in time . Most 1911 should be left alone but some need to be refinished
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No, for the sake of those who are just starting collecting, no historical/collectible gun NEEDS to be restored. The only time you should refinish a gun is if you plan to be buried with it. Even then... No serious collector (those who spend $7,000.00 on a gun) will pay top price for a restored/refinished gun. I know collectors who run away from refinished/restored.
That's all I'll say about that.
BTW, those Navy 1911s listed on GB are listed for $7000. Not sold. There's a sucker born every minute, and one of those might sell for $7000, but a refinished 1911 Navy is not anywhere near there.
