Colt 1911 with Remington Rand slide/barrel

Now (only if you care about the potential history of this) you need to go to the next step and verify that all the small parts are correct: hammer, safety, slide stop, barrel, trigger, etc. Some parts are milled, some are stamped, some are checkered, some are serrated. Depending on manufacturer and era. And, you need to verify that the slide matches the serial range. There were three "types" of Remington Rands, all with different slide stamps depending on when they were produced. Add to that, there were also different finishes used depending on when it was made. If all your stars align, you will find its a correct pistol.

There is a difference between original and correct obviously. Correct is good, original is tough unless you actually know the person who was issued the piece when it was brand new and can document the history. Parts on these are easy to swap and a lot of people will piece together a forgery for a couple of extra bucks when selling because an old surplus 1911 wasn't worth much until a few years ago. The price has gone through the roof in the last 10 years. Lots of pistols got stuff swapped over the years because they were basically the first lego pistol. Any part was supposed to work in any pistol.

A couple pics of your pistol would definitely help, there are 1911 experts on this site that would be able to tell you in a heartbeat if your pistol is a genuine article or if it was a cobbled-together mixmaster.
 
On the topic of registration certs for these WWII era USGI 1911A1 pistols, I'm fortunate have examples of each of the 'big 4' [Colt, Remington Rand, Ithaca and Union Switch & Signal] the CFC has seen fit to register each as 'Colt' for make. Doesn't make it right, it's just how 'they' do it. In fact, as I recall, I've never had one that stated the 'correct' frame/receiver maker, be it something other than 'Colt'. I think perhaps it has something to do with, in that era, Colt had the patent for the 1911/1911A1 and the others made them under 'contract'.

However, when you get into the post WWII era & up into the modern era the 1911/1911A1 frame/receiver maker's names do appear on the regs cert as correct [usually] under the actual maker's name [ie Springfield Armoury; Norinco; Ruger; Dlask etc].

Good info above from member 'deadman' about the 'rest of the story' [ie checking the small parts to ensure if they are 'original/correct']. Typically, if you have an aresenal refurb pistol then chances of it recirculating with orginal/correct/matching small parts are slim to none. That coolgunsite website is a super resource for determining what you have when you have an old 1911/1911A1 pistol.

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On the topic of registration certs for these WWII era USGI 1911A1 pistols, I'm fortunate have examples of each of the 'big 4' [Colt, Remington Rand, Ithaca and Union Switch & Signal] the CFC has seen fit to register each as 'Colt' for make. Doesn't make it right, it's just how 'they' do it. In fact, as I recall, I've never had one that stated the 'correct' frame/receiver maker, be it something other than 'Colt'. I think perhaps it has something to do with, in that era, Colt had the patent for the 1911/1911A1 and the others made them under 'contract'.

However, when you get into the post WWII era & up into the modern era the 1911/1911A1 frame/receiver maker's names do appear on the regs cert as correct [usually] under the actual maker's name [ie Springfield Armoury; Norinco; Ruger; Dlask etc].

Good info above from member 'deadman' about the 'rest of the story' [ie checking the small parts to ensure if they are 'original/correct']. Typically, if you have an aresenal refurb pistol then chances of it recirculating with orginal/correct/matching small parts are slim to none. That coolgunsite website is a super resource for determining what you have when you have an old 1911/1911A1 pistol.

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That's interesting. It must be a similar CFP thing with my Hi Powers....doesn't matter who made them they are all "Brownings"
 
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Typically, if you have an aresenal refurb pistol then chances of it recirculating with orginal/correct/matching small parts are slim to none. That coolgunsite website is a super resource for determining what you have when you have an old 1911/1911A1 pistol.
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Agreed. I have a Remington Rand that has an arsenal stamp (although the font is different than others I've seen) and it appears to be all correct style parts, but I have no real way of knowing if they are actually original to that pistol. Mind you, even without going through an arsenal a pistol could be a mixmaster, many owners could do many things. I also have a 1918 that was nowhere near original when I got it, but I've sourced correct parts so its at least right. If I were to sell it, I'd have to pass that info to the buyer.
 
If you keep your eyes open, you'll be able to find some original parts (to replace them).

Thank goodness nobody filed or ground on it.
 
Not seeing any arsenal stamp on your pistol. And unless it's the lighting in the pics, the finish on the slide doesn't match the frame. If so, although it's the correct slide for that serial number range Rem-Rand mfg pistol it's likely the frame & slide are not original to each other.

The only other comment I have is regarding the grips. For the serial number range I would expect to see Keyes mfg grips with or without the [small] rings around the screws eyelets. [Will have a "K" with a number molded into the inside of the grips]. Grips with the large rings around the eyelets, as in your pics, are found on Colt mfg pistols in that era & are commonly called "Coltwood" grips.

Still a nice example, though. :)

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Okay awesome, and yes the slide is much darker than the frame. Any idea what the value of this gun would be?
Ill let you know if I need any other parts deadman, thank you very much!
 
From those pics it almost looks like the slide has a coated finish on it. The areas where the finish are missing look like chips missing vs the rubbed wear you would see with an original finish. The frame looks like its an original finish to me, but again I'm not an authority on these.

I think your slide stop and trigger are either Norinco or no-name aftermarket though, what does the hammer and thumb safety look like?
 
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