COLT Canada SBR's/Parts

Zeroed-In said:
It was just the execution of their civilian sales (or lack there of) beyond these first #980 SA rifles that was not thought through as well as I would have expected from a business of this size and known product excellence.
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Agreed but with a caveat.
We have to consider that even if CC is a well established company, it was their first time selling to the public and they got a distributor to take care of that aspect for them. This is when SHTF... Korth was sub-par and they were replaced. The new distributor appears to be more honest.

For accessories, well, the market is the market. People are winning on the price but others are willing to pay it. To be honest, I wouldn't be a triad for 10$, but some are Want-to-be and are willing to pay 100's of $$$ for them.
And if CC was to sell them for cheaper, then people would buy a sh!t load of them and resell them for a profit on the EE (multiple case of this before).
From a business perspective, make sense to make money when there is money to be made.
I sold my green furniture for 300$ on the EE in less than 20 minutes and that was before other were made available.
 
I #####ed a lot about cc price when they first came out. A year later, after I was done throwing my tantrum like a big baby, I bought a SA15.7
Now I have a colt 6920 worth about 2000$ with its modifications and a CC worth 2100$, I can actually compare based on value. Stay tuned for a thread on that.
 
mikethebike said:
I #####ed a lot about cc price when they first came out. A year later, after I was done throwing my tantrum like a big baby, I bought a SA15.7
Now I have a colt 6920 worth about 2000$ with its modifications and a CC worth 2100$, I can actually compare based on value. Stay tuned for a thread on that.
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I cant wait to see your review...

But I already know witch one is best, its the IUR !!! .... lol... J/K :p :p :p :nest: :nest:

But if you plan on making an accuracy report, I can ship you my IUR for your test :)
 
mikethebike said:
I #####ed a lot about cc price when they first came out. A year later, after I was done throwing my tantrum like a big baby, I bought a SA15.7
Now I have a colt 6920 worth about 2000$ with its modifications and a CC worth 2100$, I can actually compare based on value. Stay tuned for a thread on that.
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Looking forward to your review.

Cheers D
 
Zeroed-In said:
Okay I'm back for more punishment from the Koldtmeister, aka' relentless, as in "let it go man please"...
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You probably don't see the irony in this post, but that's OK, everyone else does.;)

Zeroed-In said:
It still seems despite your many posts Koldt you still are not understanding what I'm attempting to express in my posts, so if you don't mind I'll use your rudimentary style of analogies in the hopes it makes it easier for you to comprehend.
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Appears you, and a couple others couldn't keep up, so I had to break it down. Seems even that didn't work, but I will try again.

Zeroed-In said:
So lets say Chevy offers some of their most valued and elite Staff a new hi-quality car built specifically for them to use and enjoy. After many years this special Staff car finally becomes available for purchase to these elite staffers and regular customers too. Many dedicated staffers do as they claimed they would and bought these new cars upon their release or shortly afterwards.
However not long after the release of these special staff cars Chevy offers a significant discount only available from that date forward to their elite staff members. Unfortunately to the dismay of all those elite staffers who had just previously purchased their new car, Chevy would not offer compensation equaling the staff discount that they had just missed out on.

So as I have written in a way that I hope you will understand Koldt, first it is not my intention to speak of the cost of these rifles as you state (although their was/is a significant price reduction now for these items), "strike one".
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Contrary to you thinking you are some kind of special customer that is entitled to special pricing, that's not the way business works. Although you may still be special.

Zeroed-In said:
Also it was of no concern to me (since I was no longer eligible, not being a current Mil. member) to offer the Military/LEO discount immediately as I never stated anything to that point in my posts (although you would think that would be a logical first step when offering these rifles; especially since Colt Canada claimed our Mil./LEO members were the reason these fine rifles actually became available in the first place, along with the many rumours here on CGN relating to a Mil./LEO discount long before these rifles were offered to the public...), strike two.
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So you are arguing here that Colt Canada fell down because they didn't live up to the rumors here on CGN?
Very special.


Zeroed-In said:
Finally as CdnCombatMedic has stated your assumption on the request for free CC swag is also incorrect. No where in my posts did I ever speak to the offering of free accessories/clothing from CC, my only wish (like the many who had stated so on the now defunct CC thread) was to have these products made available for purchase as CC stated they would just like the release of further firearms in 2015, "strike three".
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And still complaining because the gun manufacturer didn't roll out the T shirts and ball hats.


Zeroed-In said:
So while I do believe that Matt from CC in particular was professional and an upstanding player in all this, somewhere in the mix CC management or their distributor at the time "cough Korth cough" (or perhaps a combination) dropped the ball on delivering the Mil./LEO discount in a fair and professional manner and really didn't follow through on any other civilian sales (accessories or rifles...) as they had promised.
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And you are basing all of your insight and knowledge on what you read here on CGN? And blaming other businesses, based on this fantastic base of fact and insider "rumor"?

Holy frig, you get better and better all the time.

Zeroed-In said:
While I'm still a big fan of CC rifles, as I know first hand how well put together their C7 rifles are in particular. It was just the execution of their civilian sales (or lack there of) beyond these first #980 SA rifles that was not thought through as well as I would have expected from a business of this size and known product excellence.
I mean sure those in uniform must have their CC rifles and kit first (not to mention that's CC's bread and butter), but was their no thought to being able to maintain at least a trickle of new civilian rifle sales alongside these larger Mil./LEO contracts? Or even allowing the release of some accessories to hold over the faithful; isn't it likely they still could offer hats, shirts and decals etc. because they aren't likely to even be made in-house anyways?

Well here's to hoping a C8IUR 14.5" aka' "The Patrol" is in my near future (of course I may just break down and by a new SA20 before there all gone, like I said earlier, for sentimental, er' I mean semi-mental reasons)...

Cheers D

are we there yet???
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Again, feel free to let us know your vast business and gun manufacturing history and experience, so that we will give your rants the credibility they deserve.

Cause right now, you are batting .000
 
CdnCombatMedic said:
Well the higher price CC charges, the higher price dealers need to charge to make their margins lol.
I'm sure there is a suggested retail price. Now this is an assumption.
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OK, do I even have to respond to this. YOU have no idea as to what the manufacturer's cost, or for that matter, what price they charged actually is. However you continue to blame the manufacturer based on an assumption.

I'll have to refer to your rocket scientist statement below.

CdnCombatMedic said:
Not sure why you are bringing up HK here.
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Sorry to have used that analogy as you may be too young to recognize it as being similar to what is being discussed here. This is not the first time this site has slammed a manufacturer without anyone actually having any knowledge of what happened either. Aint' the first time, probably won't be the last.

CdnCombatMedic said:
Your missing a common theme off setting the price, items not selling because prices are high, then slashing the prices. This happend with the limited editions (both), the triads , and the IUR if I recall correctly.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to piece this together Koldt.
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So you are saying the SA20 & SA15 rifles aren't selling? I guess next you are saying the triads nor the furniture isn't selling either???? I got news for you, apparently it does take a rocket scientist to put this together. Stay in school, you aren't at the model stage yet.
 
All this NEA bickering of threads past aside, most folk just would like some branded swag available. Regardless of whether it's CC, Colt, DD, Spikes', LMT, Noveske etc, it be nice if some of our Vendors or Manufacturers (Cdn or US) could make this hapoen on a consistant basis...
 
koldt said:
OK, do I even have to respond to this. YOU have no idea as to what the manufacturer's cost, or for that matter, what price they charged actually is. However you continue to blame the manufacturer based on an assumption.

I'll have to refer to your rocket scientist statement below.

Sorry to have used that analogy as you may be too young to recognize it as being similar to what is being discussed here. This is not the first time this site has slammed a manufacturer without anyone actually having any knowledge of what happened either. Aint' the first time, probably won't be the last.



So you are saying the SA20 & SA15 rifles aren't selling? I guess next you are saying the triads nor the furniture isn't selling either???? I got news for you, apparently it does take a rocket scientist to put this together. Stay in school, you aren't at the model stage yet.
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I don't think they are selling well. It's been quite some time since the original release and people are still able to purchase. There was less than a 1000 combined. If they were selling well the prices would not have been cut.

If the triads were selling well I don't thing they would have been reduced either...

I don't know why you need to make this personal with your attacks .

You have no idea what I know or do not know. Your making assumptions and you know how that goes.
 
CdnCombatMedic said:
I don't think they are selling well. It's been quite some time since the original release and people are still able to purchase. There was less than a 1000 combined. If they were selling well the prices would not have been cut.

If the triads were selling well I don't thing they would have been reduced either...

I don't know why you need to make this personal with your attacks .

You have no idea what I know or do not know. Your making assumptions and you know how that goes.
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You are right, there shouldn't be any personal attacks, such as the rocket science remarks, but let's try to tone it down a bit.

The triads are selling. And at a, what I believe to be, high price. And selling 1000 rifles to the consumers here in Canada, is a high volume. And they are selling every day.

Again, you are right, I don't know what you know, and the same goes for yourself. However, because you were flaming the manufacturer for the price the retail outlets are selling the product for, you must admit, without any qualified backup, is it fair to blame the manufacturer? And again, a simple answer of: "yes, I know what the manufacturers cost of production, and distribution costs are", or "no I do not know what those costs might be", is a simple enough question and answer to give.

It is an answer that you have failed to answer and have skirted around. Usually that is a tell-tale sign of a lack of knowledge, and therefore credibility.

You might work in a gun store. It still means you won't know any of those answers either from just that. Certainly simply being in the CF does not add to any of that credibility as it has nothing to do with the business end of this company.

You are the one slagging a company, and I am trying to determine where your credible knowledge comes from to make those slagging remarks. That's all. You have continued to refused to address that issue.

I can understand why.
 
Hey I would be just happy as more parts become available. The pice is not bad considering you are getting a very well built AR. In fact the price is a bargain for those IUR uppers floating around. Just wish this happened 8 years sooner. If you don't like the price don't buy it. I think the truth is most people felt burned buying other stuff and have been waiting for CC for years.

All stick with my HK's and SR15' for ever. But would add a few IUR in the collection for sure. Btw my SR has a Colt Canada barrel blank. Best of both words.

Thanks to CC for making it happen.
 
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