Colt Canada's Next Generation Bullpup Prototype

[johnny rotten]

I remember asking a soldier if he liked his Safariland drop leg holster
He said he didn't like the leg straps, but that the Israelis seemed to know what they were doing when they designed the locking system for the hood

 

[Sinasta]

This is a rare CGN thread: Plenty of wisdom from a bunch of good people.

I will add this to the chorus: I had a discussion with someone from my trade who was asked for his choice of holster, for an upcoming holster replacement trade wide. The dude was nice enough, but he could not tell the difference between a Serpa and a 6304. Neither could he articulate why he chose the holster that he chose. If you are going to chose uninformed people for your procurement decisions, and not guide them somehow, the results will be sub optimal.

Long ago I decided that I could not change the Forces at large. What I can do is have a positive impact, locally with my subordinates/peers/immediate supervisors. Even as a part timer I feel strongly that as a professional soldier I need to seek solutions/support/gear/training outside the framework of my organization, in order to remain current and mentally sane.

So they want to dump a bunch of cash into this useless project? Oh well.

Because it's blackhawk! Most tactical gear ever made.

 

[pcvando]

This "weapons platform" is doomed to fail. Did we not learn anything from the Americans version of it? I hate this needless waste of money. Something like this will never be fielded, and if by some miracle it is, then it's going to get a worst reputation than the Ross.

 

[fullofsheets]

Fun fact - every Army that has issued a weapon mounted GL is now moving away from it.

Armies that do not have a history with weapon mounted GL's are moving too it...


Kind of like bullpups

I guess the old saying is true. One only ever learns things the hard way. After lots of failure and wasted dollars.

 

[fullofsheets]

The telescoping ammo component and the LSAT are great ideas, because they are going after a real goal of providing the same level of firepower in less weight. That is something tangible for the grunts. That component of the program is worth the money IMHO.

I do have my doubt about putting 40mm on top of a rifle. There have been over 15 years of study on this topic, every weapon of this kind end up with smart fused 25mm or less, even the Chinese goes down to 20mm bolt action. If this is not a smart fused 40mm, we are merely playing with ergonomic here.

Part of the question here is doctrinal as well. Do you want a rifle man with a GL or a grenadier in the section? The XM25 implicitly admits the guy with the launcher should be a full time grenadier. Is there a doctrine as to how and when to employ the grenadiers within the section? If we want a rifleman with a GL, the rifleman is using the rifle as a main weapon. If we want a grenadier, the launcher should be treated as the primary. What we have right now with this weapon seems to be indicating that we don't want to make that decision because either we don't know the answer or the answer is going to be different in various scenarios.

Unfortunately, if we don't admit the dilemma here, we will be getting solutions that are overly general, but not the best in efficiencies.

I agree.

The problem is most of these 'solutions' are dreamed up by people without practical experiences and pushed forward by pencil pushers.

The special forces tactical community, because they have greater degree of freedom and skill, have been moving towards lighter weight, smaller, and more ergonomic rifles like the H&K 416. These guys know what they want and what they need. No beating around the bush. If that doesn't tell you something about the ideal weapon of choice then I don't know what does. Then these researchers come along and come up with a concept like this where it is as bulky as it can be. Totally counter intuitive.

Even for a purposed grenadier who's primary should be the GL with a rifle as backup; or the riflemen who's primary should be the rifle and should maybe also be equipped with GL capability -- either of those cases should involve holding a purpose built rifle that does one task well and is as small and ergonomic as possible. So a very lean GL, and a very lean rifle. Not to put everything under the sun and combine it into one.

I think its this "Swiss Army Knife" mentality. Somehow, somewhere in the development process, some researcher thinks the "Swiss Army Knife" concept of "Do Everything" is novel, and then the entire program is tailored to make that happen. What else are we missing from this then? This rifle should also be equipped with computers, radios, food ration storage, it should be a floatation device, should turn into a motorized bicycle, should open up as a tent, etc etc. Lets add all those features why don't we? Swiss Army Knife!