Colt M4 carbine 22lr

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Being a poor man, I'm a strong believer in personal cross training with .22 versions of larger calibre firearms. It seems to me that the perfect .22 AR crossover for that purpose should be the Colt version of such a thing, but I can neither find out much about them nor find one for sale in Canada (after a quick internet search). Do these exist in Canada and if so where? I know that, at least at one point, Canadian troops were training on these, esp indoors, but haven't heard even a rumour of one for years.

Duckduck did pull up this site, I guess because the place has all the CDNNs in its name and on the site, but they in fact seem to be in the USA so of course are not usable. Check out the price though!

https://www.cdnnsports.com/colt-m4-carbine-22lr.html#.W0TEPvZFzb0
 
CF trained with these? I wonder what units, not in my local area anyway.

As someone else mentioned, I think these things have very little to do with Colt other than appearance. I've looked at one and they don't even take down like a regular AR.
 
Taken from ARF:

Ick said:
A Draft of instructions for takedown of Colt 22lr M4.......


I have yet to do a youtube video, but one is warranted for this. Here is how I would do it.

Clean off a table area so you have a nice space to work.
Have a small box lid or something to put the parts in
Try to have a clean floor area in case you drop something.

1. Using gentle tapping on a wooden dowel rod remove the two pins.
2. Set the fake bolt release and bumper in your box lid.
3. Now remove the flash hider. DONT push from the threads of the barrel, this will push the chamber out of the bolt carrier and your tiny adjustment pin and spring from the slide catch will go flying out. Only a total klutz would do that.
4. carefully remove the entire silver bolt carrier system from the upper receiver, pulling the barrel out of the shroud as you do so. You CAN use the charging handle to do this. You can also tap lightly on the loops that he back pin goes through (That is the pin that is so hard to remove).
X. set the charging handle to the side, DON'T forget to put it on when you reassemble the weapon. It is easy to forget.
X. Lay the barrel and bolt system down with the barrel to your right and the hex screws facing up. Having the barrel to the right is IMPORTANT as it will keep you from losing the adjustment pin and spring.
X. Make a note of the distance your bolt speed nut is inside the carrier system. This will make it easier for you to remember where to have it located during assembly.
X. Turn the bolt speed nut until it comes out of the receiver. WATCH OUT, if you are not careful the main spring and parts will come flying out at you. There is a lot of tension on this spring.
X. Set the spring, two caps, and bolt speed nut to the side in your box lid.
X. Now you can remove five hex screws. Note that the three identical longer ones are across the bottom and the two smaller screws are near the top of the bolt system.
X. Be sure you don't lose the nuts on the other side. As you remove the hex screws they should fall out.
X. put the hex screws and bolts in your box.
X. now you can take the two halves of the slide housing apart.
x. make a special note to see how the bolt sits, how the Ejector "sits" in place under the bolt. Slide it back and forth a few times so you can note the ejector arrangement.
x. now comes the tricky part. Do you see how the barrel/chamber "sit" in the housing nice and snug? The barrel chamber, while seated, HOLDS the tiny adjustment pin and spring in place.
x. I haven't quite mastered getting this part all back together in a smooth manner... so if you are a klutz I would suggest you NOT do the next step and clean the area with a Q-tip instead.
x. TRICKY STEP, watch how everything fits during this step. slowly remove the barrel out of the housing and look for this dastardly pin. You might want to push up on the Slide Catch (As the catch does to hold the bolt open) to take some of the pressure off of the spring when you do this. That way if you can't quite figure out where this pin and spring are at... a least it won't go flying far.

That is about as far as I would disassemble it.

Getting the pin and spring back under the barrel/chamber is tricky business. Personally I push up on the slide catch to take some tension off the spring and then kind of "rotate" the barrel/chamber into place. You have to be careful once you have it in there and seated properly not to bump everything as you assemble the rest of the bolt system. You also need to make sure you don't accidentally have a "push" motion from the barrel threads "rearward" thereby pushing the bolt backwards..... or there goes your spring and pin!

See why a Youtube video is necessary?

Assembly after that is in reverse. MAKE SURE YOU DON'T FORGET A PART. I bet I forgot the ejector two or three times thus-far during reassembly.
 
Personally, having looked at the Walther/Colt, I'd skip it. I'd really like a Tippmann Arms M4. Unfortunately it seems no one is bringing them in. They're largely AR part compliant, and have a working dust cover and bolt hold open.
 
CF trained with these? I wonder what units, not in my local area anyway.

As someone else mentioned, I think these things have very little to do with Colt other than appearance. I've looked at one and they don't even take down like a regular AR.

I read that one time in an online history of Colt Canada, so the ARs would have been made by them, not Colt LLC. Don't know anyone who said they did it though.

My assumption is that the outer controls, ie. the safety, ejector button and magazine loading must all be at least similar to a real AR, don't know that for a fact. Don't know about the availability of extra mags either, there is much I don't know.
 
I had the Walther HK416 version, same internal assembly just a different shell. Awesome rifle except when performing cleaning and maintenance, very big PITA to disassemble and reassemble. And I don’t even know where you’d get parts. It’s all proprietary as far as I could tell.
 
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I had the Walther HK416 version, same internal assembly just a different shell. Awesome rifle except when performing cleaning and maintenance, very big PIA to disassemble and reassemble. And I don’t even know where you’d get parts. It’s all proprietary as far as I could tell.

That's one of the worries with the W/C - the only proprietary parts on the Tippmann are the safety and the mags, even the trigger parts are "GI", so if you were crazy you could run a Geissele. Beyond that, I suppose your best bet is to build a lower and get a CMMG upper.
 
I've got one I'm looking to sell, actually... it's a handy lil carbine, pretty accurate. I got it for 100 yard and in training to simulate my AR but I haven't shot it in forever since I mainly shoot my precision rigs and when I want to shoot ARs, I shoot my AR, haha.
 
Why not just get a conversion kit for your current AR? They work like a charm, and you can switch back and forth in under a minute.
 
Why not just get a conversion kit for your current AR? They work like a charm, and you can switch back and forth in under a minute.

Don't believe in them, in my experience at least they're almost as much as a complete rifle (or handgun) and by paying a bit more, you end up with 2 complete firearms. As long as they are quite similar, to operate, I prefer to have 2.
 
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