Colt Model R75 BAR

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Got to handle this beauty yesterday part of a collection and the owner is terminally ill now.

He's trying to get it into the US to sell but but what a beauty, absolutely mint shape.
He's owned since late 50's and only fired 10 rounds through it to try it then locked it up.

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The latest Stephen Hunter novel "G-man" is centered around this rifle. It's the story about the early iteration of the FBI hunting John Dillinger and the other famous bank robbers of the 1930's. The most famous user of the Colt BAR was Baby Face Nelson who used it in several gun battles with the FBI.

Like all Stephen Hunter novels he sticks pretty close to the truth and in his acknowledgements tells what is fact and fiction. There is a lot of detail about the manufacture and history of the gun.

This is an ultra rare and fascinating firearm. It needs to stay in Canada but if the owner needs money I can appreciate his efforts to try and export it.
 
Lee Enfield said:
It can only go into the US as a "post sample" on a law enforcement request letter.

It would be worth about $1000 in the US.
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I believe it would be worth far more than $1000

Heddok said:
The latest Stephen Hunter novel "G-man" is centered around this rifle. It's the story about the early iteration of the FBI hunting John Dillinger and the other famous bank robbers of the 1930's. The most famous user of the Colt BAR was Baby Face Nelson who used it in several gun battles with the FBI.

Like all Stephen Hunter novels he sticks pretty close to the truth and in his acknowledgements tells what is fact and fiction. There is a lot of detail about the manufacture and history of the gun.

This is an ultra rare and fascinating firearm. It needs to stay in Canada but if the owner needs money I can appreciate his efforts to try and export it.
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He would love it to stay in Canada but so few people have the license for Full Auto.
The owner is famous, was american and moved to Canada decades ago because he loved it here.
Can't say who he is yet, has quite a bit for sale and doesn't want people hounding him as he is quite ill now.
 
jimmyjazz said:
I believe it would be worth far more than $1000



He would love it to stay in Canada but so few people have the license for Full Auto.
The owner is famous, was american and moved to Canada decades ago because he loved it here.
Can't say who he is yet, has quite a bit for sale and doesn't want people hounding him as he is quite ill now.
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I only know one guy with a Full Auto licence but he doesn't have the money for an item like this. The little bit of searching I've done would indicate $80,000 USD as a starting price and this one looks to be pristine from your photo's. I do wish the owner the best with his illness.
 
Sorry but no on $80k. To fetch that kind of dough it would have to be NFA Class 3 registered in the US already. The legal full auto's in the US that regular folks can buy were grandfathered years ago. No more are allowed to be manufactured unless the end user is Mil. Leo. or certain NFA business licence holders.
 
jimmyjazz said:
It was purchased after he moved to Canada in the late 60's

He aware it's not going to fetch 80K but its also worth more than $1000
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Your friends rifle is worth more in Canada.

I answered you question accurately; but will add more detail:

1. The complete gun CAN be legally imported to the US but only for law enforcement, with an law enforcement agency request letter. Law enforcement guns sell for hundreds to low thousands of dollars.

2. The barrel and receiver CANNOT be legally impotered into the US (except as above). Do a search for "Vahan Kelerchian found guilty" - i think the importer (Vahan) and his police officer accomplises have all been sentenced from 5 to 25 years in jail.

3. The fore stocks and bottom dust cover componants (unique to the R75) are really the only parts with any significant value which can be legally imported to the US.
 
Sometimes guns like these were registered in the USA before being exported. For example, Colt paid the tax and registered many of the commercial M16s they sold to foreign police departments as NFA firearms before exporting them. It is my understanding these guns can be reimported and sold as transferables, if you find one. It is worth checking with the ATF to see if the gun is in the registry.

If not, it is probably true to say that the best value comes from deactivating it.
 
He could contact the ATF with the serial number and see if it's been registered to the NFA as a Registered Machine Gun. They will have the records and would be able to provide the tax stamps and paperwork. Not sure about getting it back into the US though.


However if it is not, then it's worth basically what someone will pay as a curiosity. Which is not much. As stated before, finding a buyer in Canada either with a full auto Prohib license or to have it deactivated for a showpiece would be the best bet, but you won't get anywhere near a reasonable amount for it....


My last gun shop job we got deactivated guns and 12.x all the time for consignment sale, and I can tell you the value of most guns was silly low...
 
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