Colt Python in EE

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Rivalen said:
1300$, seems too good to be true...

Maybe the seller will ask you to send funds to an account in south africa... ;)
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Just an idea...... But what if CGN had a "new member trader" system for say the first 10 transactions when a first time member to the EE can only PURCHASE items until they reach a feedback of 10 positives? As sort of a "probation"? Then they can trade freely after that with full privilages. Will help ensure that the seller is legit, as a scammer would have to spend the time and money to purchase from 10 different sellers to achieve a score of 10. May not be 100% perfect but would weed out the vast majority of "here today gone tomorrow" money grab scams.

And not saying this is one....
 
No trader rating. Only a CGN member for four days. I'd offer a deposit to show commitment and tell him the rest would be paid once the transfer is complete and he has an att to ship it to the post office. At least that would give the tranaction legitimacy as far as the gun goes.
 
superspeed348 said:
No trader rating. Only a CGN member for four days. I'd offer a deposit to show commitment and tell him the rest would be paid once the transfer is complete and he has an att to ship it to the post office. At least that would give the tranaction legitimacy as far as the gun goes.
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Maybe although if I was selling a gun, whether I was a new or long time seller I would never complete a transfer on a gun without payment in full. Nor would I expect anyone else to. In some provinces the seller would have to wait 6 weeks or more to get paid. But that's just me....
 
wildernessguy said:
Maybe although if I was selling a gun, whether I was a new or long time seller I would never complete a transfer on a gun without payment in full. Nor would I expect anyone else to. In some provinces the seller would have to wait 6 weeks or more to get paid. But that's just me....
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I have sent and received EMT's larger than this before a transfer was initiated. I'm with you 100% on that. Those individuals had excellent trader ratings. I've dealt with some of the people who gave them their trader rating. It is just difficult to rationalize sending $1300 to someone who has been here for four days and has no interaction with anyone here. It is too similar to meeting a stranger on the street who says "give me $1300 and wait here. I'll bring you back a Rolex watch". There is as much chance he is legit, as not. But I'd pass on the deal or want some good indication that my investment has some protection. I have taken chances and sent money to low or no trader rating, but nowhere near that much.
 
superspeed348 said:
I have sent and received EMT's larger than this before a transfer was initiated. I'm with you 100% on that. Those individuals had excellent trader ratings. I've dealt with some of the people who gave them their trader rating. It is just difficult to rationalize sending $1300 to someone who has been here for four days and has no interaction with anyone here. It is too similar to meeting a stranger on the street who says "give me $1300 and wait here. I'll bring you back a Rolex watch". There is as much chance he is legit, as not. But I'd pass on the deal or want some good indication that my investment has some protection. I have taken chances and sent money to low or no trader rating, but nowhere near that much.
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I hear what your saying completely and I also share your sentiment. Perhaps I didn't type what I was referring to well that has a tendency to happen...... In this case with what I am proposing, the seller who has been a member of 4 days would not be a seller at all! He/she would have had to complete the 10 transactions as a BUYER only and once complete they would then have the right to sell and will have 10 positive feedbacks that will in the very least... take time.

And I don't think that system is even unfair or unreasonable for a newbie seller. In this day and age, with the internet atmosphere for scamming being what it is I would think most would be understanding if they want the privilege of selling in the EE. It seems to be a fairly logical layer of security to protect members is all. Sites will have to adapt with creative solutions is really what I am getting at. I have felt the same as you a number of times.... Seen a few items listed that I wanted in the worst way, but next to zero feedback keeps me from buying.
 
wildernessguy said:
Just an idea...... But what if CGN had a "new member trader" system for say the first 10 transactions when a first time member to the EE can only PURCHASE items until they reach a feedback of 10 positives? As sort of a "probation"? Then they can trade freely after that with full privilages. Will help ensure that the seller is legit, as a scammer would have to spend the time and money to purchase from 10 different sellers to achieve a score of 10. May not be 100% perfect but would weed out the vast majority of "here today gone tomorrow" money grab scams.


And not saying this is one....
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You know , your idea might be a good one . As it might take a person like me a long time to purchase 10 , I think 5 might be a better number . Just my opinion though , as a person who has only bought one gun here since joining . If I had more money I'd have bought 20 by now !
 
Wrong grips and manual based on description. I would not touch without S/N and calling RCMP to check if its real. Besides for a 12-6 its overpriced.
 
wildernessguy said:
I hear what your saying completely and I also share your sentiment. Perhaps I didn't type what I was referring to well that has a tendency to happen...... In this case with what I am proposing, the seller who has been a member of 4 days would not be a seller at all! He/she would have had to complete the 10 transactions as a BUYER only and once complete they would then have the right to sell and will have 10 positive feedbacks that will in the very least... take time.

And I don't think that system is even unfair or unreasonable for a newbie seller. In this day and age, with the internet atmosphere for scamming being what it is I would think most would be understanding if they want the privilege of selling in the EE. It seems to be a fairly logical layer of security to protect members is all. Sites will have to adapt with creative solutions is really what I am getting at. I have felt the same as you a number of times.... Seen a few items listed that I wanted in the worst way, but next to zero feedback keeps me from buying.
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Gotcha. I agree. Those with little or no feedback need to attain a level of credibility before being permitted to sell on the EE. Best way to do that is to buy on the EE.

It seems odd to me though when a member will not sell to somone with little or no feedback. Once they pay for the item, I have no worries. Or am I missing something there?
 
jackrabbit000 said:
Noticed that...1 post and 0 Feedback Rating...I wouldn't go near it with a 10 ft pole.
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Bingo. This ad illustrates my "newbie trader system" perfectly...... This is because in large part, it really doesn't matter whether this ad is bogus or not, people just won't pull the trigger on the sale because the seller has no feedback. Whereas, if the seller had some manner of positive feedback before they made their first sale which would require time making purchases without being able to sell anything, with this system the buyer has at least one level of confidence they didn't have before. If a new seller has literally MILLIONS of classified forums to scam on the internet, is that person likely to take the time to make 5 or 10 purchases from independent sellers and then sit back and wait for shipping, feedback to be left, etc? It would not matter where the seller lives if they are a scammer, the fact is, there are so many other sites that would easier pickins' they are far more likely to move on. Even if they make 5-10 cheapo purchases buying 10 sets of grip screws it's still more work in a sea of other internet targets that are no work at all. They just copy/paste the ad to 100's of sites. Nobody can block scammers from all sites, but we can sure do a lot to make this site superior to all the other firearms classifieds in the country. I am convinced this is a step in the right direction.

If it sounds like I know a little too much about scamming, it's because I was in the security industry for well over a decade in just about every manner you can think of. About the only thing I liked about the job was out thinking crooks and beating them at their own game. I admit even this system is not perfect, just a good start, and I have been fooled myself. I lost $450 last year from a seller that took my money and ran and I never got a dime back. Live and learn.
 
superspeed348 said:
Gotcha. I agree. Those with little or no feedback need to attain a level of credibility before being permitted to sell on the EE. Best way to do that is to buy on the EE.

It seems odd to me though when a member will not sell to somone with little or no feedback. Once they pay for the item, I have no worries. Or am I missing something there?
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I've heard of that one before but I don't understand that either. If they meet the legal criteria and have the cash, why in the world would one not want to sell TO them? You've got me there.....
 
superspeed348 said:
Wow! $1800 now. Should I buy it now before it goes to $2200 or wait til it has a 6" barrel?
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Playing "devils advocate" here it could be like the last legit very reasonably priced Python I seen on here. That one was priced so well that some members PM'd the seller and told him the price was too low, so he pulled the ad and we'll see it again at a higher price in the future apparently. Perhaps that could be what's going on here.

Of course I would be VERY careful dealing with the ad as mentioned in the OP. Just thought I'd show that there could be reason as to why the price changed other than a potential scammer.
 
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