Colt Python - Value as a restricted vs prohib
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Sorry, but there is no exemption dollar amount for MAJOR COMPONENTS, which includes barrels, frames, etc. It is not Canadian Customs who stop it, it would be US Customs, or if Canadian Customs finds it and informs the US. Exporting a barrel without a US export permit is a US Federal Offense. A couple of years ago fines (after making deals with federal prosecutors) for exporting scopes without a permit were running about $1,000 per scope.
There are lots of threads here about what you can legally EXPORT from the US without a US Export Permit. And yes, there is a lot of confusion about this topic and even a lot of border agents don't know the rules.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51554
This is just a helpful clarification for those of you who are thinking about rebarreling a Python to a 6" barrel. A suggestion might be to import through someone (gunsmith) who regularly brings parts across the border and have them add it to their shipment.
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You are wrong. Barrels are controlled as far as export from the US is concerned. There is no US$100 at wholesale exemption for barrels and some other parts, like slides, cylinders, frames, receivers. Canada Customs is not enforcing US export law, the fact that they did not stop it means nothing. If the package had been tagged in the US, the barrel would have been seized, the US seller charged, and your name would have been flagged, as being involved in the violation of US federal law.
The short barrel/prohibited device thing is interesting. My business licence included gunsmithing on prohibs. Rebarrelled a couple of Lugers. The CFC was very interested in the old barrels, and insisted I could not retain them in the business. Yet another gunsmith I know with the same class of licence is allowed to manintain an inventory of them for gunsmithing purposes. Darn'd if I know.
I'm starting to think this is the way to go...
Or keep both the 4" and 6" together with gun, and sell it as a set, like when I bought it.
Or just keep it until we get a Tory majority who scraps this whole 12(6) nonsense.
Or keep both the 4" and 6" together with gun, and sell it as a set, like when I bought it.
Or just keep it until we get a Tory majority who scraps this whole 12(6) nonsense.
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Cocked&Locked
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er, that might not be a good thing to publish here.......maybe the mods would be nice and delete it?
er, that might not be a good thing to publish here.......maybe the mods would be nice and delete it?
It is not uncommon for a gun to be registered with more than one barrel length, and ending up as a probhib and restricted.
Take a Dan Wesson revolver for example, changeable barrels in 2, 4, 6, and 8 inches. I have also seen a couple of guns that are registered with both a prohib and restricted barrel, the barrels are not easy to change, and the restricted barrel is currently on the gun. The original green permit listed both barrel lengths.
The permit is for that the prohib barrel as part of the "gun" despite it not being attached. If there was a barrel that is not accounted for in the permit, then that barrel would be a prohibited device. That would happen if you put on a longer barrel and removed the prohib status from that firearm. The removed barrel would no longer be "married" to a specific gun.
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Halger280HVMag
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I own several Dan Wesson revolvers.
One is a part of a set, with 2"/4'"/6"/8" barrels. It is registered as prohibited.
Another has only a 4" barrel and is prohibited.
Still another has a 6" barrel and is restricted.
I can not legally install a 2" or 4" barrel from the first gun onto the third gun which is only restricted, because doing so would create a prohibited firearm.
I have been advised by CFC that to make the first gun restricted, I would have to take the gun and barrels to a licensed gunsmith. The smith would then install one of the longer barrels, destroy ALL of the prohibited length barrels and re-register the gun as restricted.
As an aside. I have owned the first gun with it's Pistol-Pac case and all for thirty years or so.
Originally there was only one registration slip for the whole kit.
Eventually, there were green slips for EACH barrel in the set.
2 cents.
One is a part of a set, with 2"/4'"/6"/8" barrels. It is registered as prohibited.
Another has only a 4" barrel and is prohibited.
Still another has a 6" barrel and is restricted.
I can not legally install a 2" or 4" barrel from the first gun onto the third gun which is only restricted, because doing so would create a prohibited firearm.
I have been advised by CFC that to make the first gun restricted, I would have to take the gun and barrels to a licensed gunsmith. The smith would then install one of the longer barrels, destroy ALL of the prohibited length barrels and re-register the gun as restricted.
As an aside. I have owned the first gun with it's Pistol-Pac case and all for thirty years or so.
Originally there was only one registration slip for the whole kit.
Eventually, there were green slips for EACH barrel in the set.
2 cents.
Cocked&Locked
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yes but we're talking about a fixed barrel unit, registered as a prohib, but with a non-prohib barrel...
Yes, that is exactly the situation a person in my family has, a threaded barrel on a semi 9mm, which needs a vice and jig to unscrew the restricted barrel to install and index the original prohib barrel. The law doesn't state that the change has to be quick, easy, or even possible.
The point is that a barrel less than 105mm is registered and tied to a specific gun.
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Yup, 'cause that's important. Good thing we spent those billions on this, god knows what kind of wild barrel length problems we could have had otherwise. - dan
