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Hi,
I am considering either the Colt Python/Anaconda or the Smith model 629 as my primary shooter. I think both of these guns are very nice looking guns and was wondering if anyone had good/bad luck with these models. I don't really need a .44 and would probably go with the .357 as there is more penetration with the .44 when used for security purposes. Also if anyone has a good suggestion for a reliable 6 shooter I would welcome it. I also like the Taurus models. Also, what would be the advantages to having a semi, other than obviously a larger mag, and if so what models would you recommend? This is for me but this thread will most likely benefit many others so feel free to comment on your own guns and experiences with your firearms...thanks
 
as a first gun Iwould go for a ruger revolver over either of those, this would seem to be one of your first pistol purchases, check out a nice stainless ruger gp100 with a 6" barrel in 357 ....

you will like a 357 because you can buy cheap 38 special for it and then it is more economical to run... remember the first rule of pistol club, don't talk abou... whoops, second rule of pistol club, BUY AMMO !!!!

the more you shoot the better you will get, the cheaper the ammo is the more you will shoot... :)

not digging either the smith or the colt, just they are not as robust as the ruger and after a few thousand or 10's of thousands the timing will go out on them, it is not a matter of if, its a matter of when.

since your in alberta check out his place for ammo prices, combatmasters.ca and they have very good pricing and pickup at most of the stores in alberta area.
 
Westicle said:
not digging either the smith or the colt, just they are not as robust as the ruger and after a few thousand or 10's of thousands the timing will go out on them, it is not a matter of if, its a matter of when.
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? I've never had to have a smith retimed......maybe if shot many many heavy loads......

If you dont' need/want a 44, consider a smith M-27, same large frame but in 357. Or if you want a smaller frame a 5/686.....rugers are nice, and they are tough, but the trigger leaves a bit to be desired to my taste...mind you, I'm a smith guy.....
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If you are sensitive to recoil I would go with the Colt; It is a more massive revolver. A word of caution is 8 3/8 " barrels burn powder to the end of the barrel. So? 8 3/8" barrels tend to recoil as much as the handier 6 1/2" ones. Regards, Richard:D
 
Neither of the revolvers you named come in 357, so you may have to rethink your strategy there. I would stay away from Taurus, simply because thier warranty in Canada is practically non-existant if something goes wrong. As for S&Ws and Colts going out of time, yes they will. Back when we used to shoot a lot of silhouette, the S&Ws would not stand up to the regimen of high power loads repeated ad infinitum. Colt didn't have a 44 back then, so it never was an issue for them, but they are not as robust a design as Ruger DA revolvers. You want a 357 that will last forever? get a 357 Redhawk (and I'm a Colt and S&W fan). - dan
 
richardoldfield said:
If you are sensitive to recoil I would go with the Colt; It is a more massive revolver. A word of caution is 8 3/8 " barrels burn powder to the end of the barrel. So? 8 3/8" barrels tend to recoil as much as the handier 6 1/2" ones. Regards, Richard:D
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I thought you liked Taurus the best.
 
My axiom is: Colt semi-autos [i.e. the 1911 .45] and S&W wheelguns...:cool:

I've handled some of Taurus's newer offerings... while seemingly well made & given grand reviews by those that own/shoot them I just don't care to own one myself...
 
ELVIS56 said:
Hi,
I am considering either the Colt Python/Anaconda or the Smith model 629 as my primary shooter. I think both of these guns are very nice looking guns and was wondering if anyone had good/bad luck with these models. I don't really need a .44 and would probably go with the .357 as there is more penetration with the .44 when used for security purposes. Also if anyone has a good suggestion for a reliable 6 shooter I would welcome it. I also like the Taurus models. Also, what would be the advantages to having a semi, other than obviously a larger mag, and if so what models would you recommend? This is for me but this thread will most likely benefit many others so feel free to comment on your own guns and experiences with your firearms...thanks
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You can pick up a great S&W .357/.38spl. 586 or 686 in the EE from time to time for around 600 to 800 bucks. Shoot .357 occasionally for the rush and .38 to learn marksmanship & accuracy without spending an arm and a leg. You WILL get other guns so don't think in terms of it being the only one you will own. When you have a few pieces then rethink the .44 mag idea. Lots of fun but very expensive for an only child gun. The .357 Python? I've got a beautiful Royal Blue in 6" but it cost at least double what I spent on my S&W 686.

Mike
 
I don't really need a .44 and would probably go with the .357 as there is more penetration with the .44 when used for security purposes.
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And where do you think you will be able to use your gun for security purposes? This is Canada remember. While the government likes to call our firearms weapons they don't actually let us use them that way.

I would go for a .357 first. Cheaper to shoot. As far as S&W loosing it's timing after a lot of use, I have never heard that to be the case. Some Colts yes but not a S&W.
 
Thanks for all the great advice. I have many long guns such as a .303 and a 12 gauge semi with a 21" barrel so recoil is not an issue. I have taken a look at the ruger gp100 and it looks and sounds like a reliable choice for a first handgun. It would be for hobby shooting and Im sure it wouldnt get abused enough to wear out too quick. As for the .44 /.357 issue, I would prefer the .44 but the .357 is adequate. I fired some rounds on a Anaconda so I was partial to that model but I also think a S&W 686 is a nice gun. As for security, I was refering to home security, as I recently moved and had to put all my firearms in locked storage. A handgun would be an effective safeguard in the event that it is required. As for the government, well you all know how brain-dead they are so no point of getting into any detail on that, but obviously it would only be used for personal protection in my home.
 
.357/.44

Ruger is your best buy at this stage. in .44 mag best choice is Redhawk not super Redhawk mine shoots like new after about 20 yrs. Think about some of the older .357 revolvers like the Security-six, well made a dream to maintain and boy do they shoot. I have an old stainless one in 4" that shoots just as well as my 6" Python and usually reasonable prices, try em youll like em---Ron.
 
of course, if you have your handgun anyplace you can get at it for home security, your gonna be charged with unsafe storage if you need it. Better off with a short pump 12
 
I have been looking at the ruger GP100 and they look like a nice gun, and by the replies here there are many who like it also. I have a Rem. 11-87 SP Deer shotgun(semi with 21" barrel) which would serve nicely as a home defence weapon. The handgun would be mostly use for my own enjoyment of target shooting. I have seen a gun safe awhile back that opens and closes similar to a CD-Rom. You put your gun in it and close the tray and if you want to take it out you lay your hand in the hand imprint that is molded into the top and push the pre-coded combination with your fingers and the tray pops open. Does anyone have or seen these operate and are they legal in Canada? If my house is being broken into I won't feel bad about having a moon clip somewhere close ready to slap into it. Its hard enough to protect yourself nowadays, and as my father says, better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6....
 
Go to a gunshop and handle both, you will have a favorite, and you won't know why. Personally, I'm a Smith guy and having put 50,000 rounds through 3 revolvers I know what my reasons are, but as soon as I handled my first one I knew what felt best to me.
PS, I've never had to have a revolver re-timed either, it is unlikely that a sport shooter who isn't a professional shooter ever will.
 
I have a Smith M28 Highway Patrolman; a big old N frame (29) that takes both 38 Special and 357 Magnum. It is the same as the M27, but not as fancy; it was menat to be a no frills duty revolver for police oficers. With the 6" barrel and 38 Special loads, I get about the same recoil as from ym Ruger semi 22 pistol; it is a joy to shoot. The 357 Magnum rounds are not all that bad to shoot in it either. They do not make them anymore, other than the cutom shop, but they come up from time to time in the Exchange forum if you are willing to wait.

I like pistols, but revolvers are failry simple to use compared to most pistols. You drop your rounds from your speed loader, close the cylinder, and pull the trigger.
 
COREY said:
I like pistols, but revolvers are failry simple to use compared to most pistols. You drop your rounds from your speed loader, close the cylinder, and pull the trigger.
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Which is infinitely simpler than inserting a magazine, racking the slide and pulling the trigger....:rolleyes:
 
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ELVIS56 said:
As for security, I was refering to home security, as I recently moved and had to put all my firearms in locked storage. A handgun would be an effective safeguard in the event that it is required. As for the government, well you all know how brain-dead they are so no point of getting into any detail on that, but obviously it would only be used for personal protection in my home.
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And that would be illegal. Also, you do realize that shooting sports afficionados are not the only ones who troll this sight, right? These kinds of comments can hurt all of us, as they give great ammunition to the orgainized and funded anti's out there, so please apply some discretion before you hit the ubmit button.
 
Don't get me wrong Dragoon, I personally like a pistol over revolvers when all is said and done. Some pistols have safeties, some don't, while almost all revolvers do not. Since I have had pistols, I have had different problesm happen due to springs (break in), monkeying around with reloads, powder build up where I did not expect, but I still love a pistol 'cause I like to tinker a bit.

That being said, I have done virtually nothing to my Smith other than a quick scrub to the cylinder face, barrel, and forcing cone, and it has gone bang every time I pulled the trigger.
 
I own both a S&W 586 and a Colt Python in Bright SS, both 6".

The 586 was my first gun I bougth 13 years ago. Forget about the 629. It is just too big that I don't think you would like.

For one revolver only I would recommend the 586. It is less expensive. Don't need to worry about wear too much since it is less expensive. Good gun for PPC.

The Python, it is very smooth, very good balance especially when you shoot 357. (It is absolutely less punishing and less muzzle jump). Very beautiful as well. Trigger smoothness is nothing that the 586 can come any close.

A simpler comparison, the S&W 586 like a Honda Civic you can drive everyday. The Python like a Corvette Z06 that you would drive in good sunny day.
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