Common Load for Mil Surp 30 cal

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Having just bought an Enfield and already working on a load for my SKS, I found this article by C E Harris which is all over the reloading forums. I found this part really interesting, but am new to rifle reloading so I have to ask...

The Workhorse Load - Mattern's "200 yard Target"

My favorite load is the most accurate. Mattern's so-called "200 yard target load." I expect 10 shot groups at 200 yards, firing prone rapid with sling to average 4-5". I shoot high Sharpshooter, low Expert scores across the course with an issue 03A3 or M1917, shooting in a cloth coat, using may cast bullet loads. The power of this load approximates the 32-40, inadequate for deer by today's standards. Mattern's "200 yard target load" is easy to assemble. Because it is a mild load, soft scrap alloys usually give better accuracy than harder ones, such as linotype. Local military collector-shooters have standardized on 16 grains of #2400 as the "universal" prescription. It gives around 1500 f.p.s. with a 150-180 grain cast bullet in almost any military caliber. We use 16 grains of #2400 as our reference standard, just as high power competitors use 168 Sierra Match Kings and 4895.

The only common military rifle cartridge in which 16 grains of #2400 provides a maximum load, and which must not be exceeded, is in the tiny 7.63x39mm case. Most SKS rifles will function reliably with charges of #2400 as light as 14 grains with the Lee 312-155-2R at around 1500 f.p.s. I designed this bullet especially for the 7.62x39, but it works very well as a light bullet in any .30 or .303 caliber rifle.

Sixteen Grains of #2400 is the Universal Load

The same 16 grain charge of #2400 is universal for all calibers as a starting load. It is mild and accurate in any larger military case from a 30-40 Krag or .303 British up through a 30-06 or 7.9x57, with standard weight bullets of suitable diameter for the caliber. This is my recommendation for anybody trying cast bullets loads for the first time in a military rifle without prior load development. I say this because #2400 is not "position sensitive", requires no fiber fillers to ensure uniform ignition, and actually groups better when you stripper-clip load the rifle and bang them off, rather than tipping the muzzle up to position the powder charge.

I was already going to start with 13 grains of 2400 for ths sks but after seeing the article I am thinking of using the same or 15 grain load for plinking with the Enfield and the sks under a 155gr .312 Lee cast bullet.

My question is would I need to change the OAL with the .303 Brit since it is a bigger case or would the manuals OAL still be the one to go with? Some say that there is no need to add filler to the case but it seems to me that there will be a lot of empty space in the Brit case compared to the 762 X39.

Thanks,
Cactus
 
Don't worry about OAL. Just seat the bullet so it will crimp, if you want to crimp, in the crimping groove in the cast bullet.
I wouldn't use filler.
 
Thanks for the info,

I am going to experiment with the crimp to see which is better (or needed). Hopefully I can use a taper crimp on these soft lead cast bullets rather than a heavy crimp.

I'll just have to check the barrel after each test shot and go from there.

The bullets dropped from the Lee mould look great, since I tumble lubed them with Lee Allox should I wipe off the excess after seating in the case or before? My concern is the lube coming out of the grease groves if I wipe them before seating.

Cactus
 
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